Sharon Byrne

So they saying that it's a grey area is another red herring.

Punters have bet on numbers and lotteries in our shops, as I said, for 30 years, David.

And yes, a bookmaker can continue to offer other things, but who you're actually affecting are the punters that enjoy just spending 10 cent or 50 cent on their birthdays and they know how much they're going to win.

Actually, Joe Duffy, this was on the Joe Duffy shows a few years ago because the National Lottery were trying to get a band back then as well.

And the amount of

Normal punters that just rang in and said, this is nonsense.

I want to place my 50 cents or my one euro.

Yes, David, different countries take different approaches to gambling products.

For example, in the UK, they allow where it is banned.

They can bet on the Irish lottery, but not on the UK lottery.

They offer slot machines type products in their shops.

Over in Portugal or Spain, they offer alcohol.

You can sit down and have a pint when you're having a bet in the shops.

Each country offers different ways of betting shop environments and products.

Well, this is betting, David.

So, yes, anybody licensed operator in Ireland that wants to continue betting has to get a new licence when they become active in December.

But it isn't a standalone product.

This is a betting product.

Betting a number one to come out in the lottery tonight is similar to betting a number one at the first race at Pontchartown.