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Shaun Kent

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Fame Under Fire
Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni head to court

Justin's attorney and Justin will be in the room. Blake and Blake's attorney will be in the room. And then the mediator. The mediator is usually a court certified officer. Could be a lawyer, could be somebody from that district who is a mediator. And then the parties talk. They just say what they want to say in their opening statements. Blake, you did this. Justin, you did this. After they get done with their opening statements, if they're even required, they sign a document.

Fame Under Fire
Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni head to court

The document says this is confidential. Anything we say, anything we do, anything we try to do in this room shall not, foreshadowing, shall not be able to be used in a courtroom down the road. You cannot say stuff inside of this courtroom. This is all confidential. The reason you want it confidential is so if the parties try to settle. Well, then after they sign it, they go to separate rooms.

Fame Under Fire
Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni head to court

They probably don't see each other the rest of the day. The mediator goes from room to room to room. It sounds, for all this fancy legal jargon, what ends up happening is the mediator will go to Blake's room first and say, Blake, what do you think this case is worth and why? Tell me the strengths of your case. Tell me the good parts of your case. Tell me the things about your case. She says, I have been horribly this, this, this, this, this and this. My first demand to them is $20 million.

Fame Under Fire
Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni head to court

Sitten he kÀyvÀt Justinin kautta. He pyysivÀt $20 miljoonaa. MinÀ en anna $20 miljoonaa. MinÀ en anna $20 miljoonaa, minÀ anna $1 miljoonaa. Miksi sinun mielestÀsi tilanne on vain $1 miljoonaa? Koska lainsÀÀdÀntö sanoo tÀmÀ, lainsÀÀdÀntö sanoo tÀmÀ, lainsÀÀdÀntö sanoo tÀmÀ. Sitten lainsÀÀdÀntö menee takaisin toiselle kautta. He kÀsittÀvÀt $1 miljoonaa $20 miljoonaan. Sitten he sanovat, ettÀ mennÀÀn $18 miljoonaan. TÀmÀ jatkuu kuukausien, jos ei pÀivien aikana. Ja se on lainsÀÀdÀntö. Jeesus, heillÀ on tehty työtÀ heille, lainsÀÀdÀntö. On

Fame Under Fire
Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni head to court

It can be court appointed. It is usually court certified where they have to go. They have to take classes. It's usually somebody from the district who knows. And the reason we want someone from the district is we want somebody who knows what juries are likely to do. Somebody who knows the law. A lot of times former judges are the best mediators because they know everything that's going on in the case. And we always say the best mediators are people that both sides respect. And in a quality, good mediation,

Fame Under Fire
Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni head to court

No one leaves happy. And that means technically the mediation worked. That somebody paid way more than they wanted to and someone got way less than they wanted to. And that's the process.

Fame Under Fire
Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni head to court

If she says something, it is not permissible based upon that agreement. It is not permissible to be used inside of a trial courtroom. And the question always comes up, what would a judge do if somebody gets on the stand and says something completely impermissible in front of that jury? What will end up happening? And then the other thing that could end up happening is you have confidentiality agreements.

Fame Under Fire
Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni head to court

So you've noticed nobody has given us any statements as what's happened in this mediation. You haven't heard Blake said he was this and these was this and this was this. You haven't heard any press conferences. And what would also happen is, let's say for argument's sake, they settled it.

Fame Under Fire
Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni head to court

Katsotaanpa, ettÀ he kÀsittelevÀt sen tarpeeksi. Ja katsotaanpa, ettÀ Blake jÀtti sitÀ tarpeeksi. Katsotaanpa, ettÀ hÀnellÀ on pressikonferenssi ja hÀn sanoo, ettÀ hÀn on pannut 10 miljoonaa. Ja hÀn kÀsittelee, ettÀ hÀn oli pahassa. TÀmÀ voisi vÀlttÀmÀttÀ vÀlttÀmÀttÀ vÀlttÀmÀttÀ. Ja he voisivat sanoa, ettÀ me haluamme rikkoa ja me haluamme mennÀ kohdalle, koska he ovat vÀlttÀmÀttÀ. MennÀÀn suoraan kohdalle. Se on heidÀn oikeuksensa.

Fame Under Fire
Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni head to court

No sinÀ olet juuri oikeassa. MikÀ se on kutsuttu kÀsittelyyn? Jumala on tiettyjÀ asioita hÀnen kÀsittelyssÀÀn. Haluan, ettÀ me menemme tÀhÀn. Jumala on tiettyjÀ asioita hÀnen kÀsittelyssÀÀn, Nushka. HÀn voi sanoa, ettÀ tiedÀtkö, en usko, ettÀ se on niin paha. Se, mitÀ olimme sanoneet, ei ole paha. KÀsittely on kÀsittely, joka sanoo, ettÀ juri voi kÀsitellÀ ongelmaa.

Fame Under Fire
Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni head to court

You know what? This doesn't go to the ultimate issue of innocence or guilt. It's not that big so I can give a curative instruction. But let's say it's something big. Let's say it's something that's massive. Let's say something that the judge in pretrial says we are not allowing anything in that says Diddy admitted it, that Blake admitted it, that Justin admitted it. And then someone on the stand blurts out, well, they admitted it. Well, then the judge could say, you know what? I'm throwing the entire case out.

Fame Under Fire
Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni head to court

to one, best friends with another, that we've heard about so much. What do you think, Sean? I think it means absolutely nothing that nobody showed up. As a matter of fact, I guarantee her, lawyers told her, don't come. Because mediation, for as fancy as it sounds, is the most boring process on the planet. It is hours of sitting in a room. Sometimes when we engage in mediation, we tell our client, you know what, bring a book. Sit there and read. Because remember, as I described to you, we have that third-party mediator who's going to one room,

Fame Under Fire
Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni head to court

Ja sitten sinulla ei ole lakia tapahtumassa. TÀmÀn yksityisen tilanteen nÀkyy, ettÀ hÀn on vaarallinen. Olemme puhuneet paljon tÀstÀ. TÀmÀ on voimakkaus ja siitÀ, kuka nÀmÀ ihmiset ovat. Ja se, ettÀ Blake on jÀrjestetty yhteistyötÀ hÀneltÀ, jotta hÀn voisi luoda nÀkökulma, joka on tuossa ionisfeerissÀ. HÀn kÀyttÀÀ vahvoja ystÀviÀ ja PR-ystÀviÀ, jotta hÀn voisi luoda nÀkökulma, joka ei ole tuossa.

Fame Under Fire
Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni head to court

Taylorista ja Ryansista ja he ovat paljon vahvempia kuin Seanista ja Anushkasta ja jos he sanovat asioita, niin ihmiset kuulevat, ettÀ ajatteluprosessi on hÀn, hÀnen PR-yhtyeensÀ, hÀnen vahvistuneista ihmisiÀ ovat voineet kÀyttÀÀ nÀitÀ ihmisiÀ takapuolella, jotta luodaan narratiivia, jotka vaikuttavat Justinille. Ja vielÀ enemmÀn kuin se, jotta voidaan vahvistaa kreatiivinen kontroli filmista hÀnen puolestaan. Toivottavasti, toivottavasti. Tuo osa myös.

Fame Under Fire
Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni head to court

But why is that relevant for a sexual harassment claim? We're talking about power dynamics. Could she actually be, and please don't come for me, I'm not saying she can't be, but could she actually be harassed? Could she actually be in that situation when she has dominion and control over the set, when she is the power broker and she has more power than Justin on this set?

Fame Under Fire
Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni head to court

Voiko hÀn olla tilanteessa, jossa hÀn on haastava työelÀmÀssÀ, kun hÀn on voima setissÀ? Kun hÀn on tÀrkein asiantuntija ja hÀnellÀ on tÀrkeimpiÀ ihmisiÀ ympÀri hÀneltÀ. Ja se tulee olemaan Justinin tuntemus koko tilanteen aikana, ettÀ ei ole harrastusta, ei ole mitÀÀn tÀllaista. SinÀ olet voima. Teet tilannetta, joka ei ole siellÀ. Kun kÀytÀt perheesi, yritÀt luoda tarinaa, joka ei ole oikeastaan totta.

Fame Under Fire
Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni head to court

Ja sitten jatkuvasti Taylor Swift kirjoittaa takaisin, ettÀ minÀ tehdÀn mitÀ tahansa sinulle. Kuinka vaarallista luulet, Sean? Luulen, ettÀ se vaarallisesti vaarallisesti vaarallisesti vaarallisesti vaarallisesti vaarallisesti vaarallisesti vaarallisesti vaarallisesti

Fame Under Fire
Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni head to court

The hardest thing to overcome is somebody's own words. And these are her own words. And not only are they just her own words, they're even worse because they're own words that she didn't think would ever get out to the public. So those are her private sentiments at the time. These are private text messages that to me are going to be hard to explain because they're your private thoughts to your private bestie talking complete trash about Justin and showing the power dynamic and actual control. I think it hurts.

Fame Under Fire
Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni head to court

KyllÀ, mutta ÀlÀ unohda, ettÀ todellisuus menee paikoilleen. Kun puhutaan mahdollisista juurista, juurit vaikuttavat ihmisille todellisuudesta. Kuten nÀimme todellisuudessa Diddy-kirjassa,

Fame Under Fire
Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni head to court

The allegations were abhorrent, but the second a juror does not trust a witness and does not trust what they say. So the way they look at it, if a witness is discredited from the first words out of their mouth, the rest of the stuff that comes up, a jury is going to be like, I don't know if I necessarily believe it. And we remember this from watching the Diddy trial. And don't forget.