Shawn Riegsecker

We don't disclose this specific thing, but we're well over $100 million in revenue.

It's actually somewhere between 110% and 130%.

Yeah, so the last four quarters have been tough for us.

Why?

Because there's been two major transition points that have been going on.

The first is that as ad agencies have started to bring in their planning and buying and run more dollars through programmatic,

that has actually affected us where agencies didn't need our outsourced managed services as much as they did before.

They're bringing it in-house.

Yeah, they're taking it in-house.

And so because we had to rebuild the platform from ground up, we didn't get, I think, the market share that we would have liked to have had had we had the product in place 18 months ago, two years ago.

Um, that being said, you know, we just, we launched it in July and so we're pretty excited for next year.

Yeah.

So last four quarters, Frank, have been some of the toughest four quarters in the history of our company outside of the recession in 08 and 09.

I think this year, when you look at it, I think our growth rate is going to be in the single digits.

Yeah, the interest, and I'm a huge fan of Bill, love him.

And it's a really, since you know MediaOcean- Do you really?

I really do love him.

He's one of the greatest guys in the industry.

I love any time him and I get the chance to catch up.

Now, that being said, MediaOcean can be a friend.