Shawn Ryan

You're playing with a given solution.

So it's kind of...

It's harder because it's non-linear, but when you're doing multiple moment expansions in E&M or just literally, if you give me some charged object, put it here, what's the electric field far away?

I don't know if they've any fun.

I think if I try to make an analogy, you could probably help figure out one with some telecom, like reverse engineering from all these different radio signals, what's happening.

Yeah.

I mean, I think the best thing is like – I forget which – I'm going to get the name of the movie wrong.

But like Kip Thorne was a scientific advisor to this whatever – oh, man.

I wish I had a better recall of like names of cool movies.

Interstellar maybe?

I hope I'm not wrong on that.

Where they actually ran a simulation for what it looks like.

I think that you have pretty good like images from either like that movie or –

But you've seen the light coming out of it, right?

Oh, no, it should be round.

And so ironically, I definitely have like colleagues who play with these type of like race simulations more than me.

So the way when I see black hole, I see like a metric, I see an equation written down and I like, oh, this blows up here.

But the point is that when you're seeing the simulations, I think a lot of it is you're seeing like, imagine you had some stars behind it and then how that light from the star is coming to you.

And so like, maybe it looks funny because literally like you're not necessarily seeing the fact that nothing, you're also seeing nothing came from it kind of, but you're also seeing some like funny,

lensing of the stars behind their light kind of going on geodesics around and coming to you.