Shawn Ryan

to get his director brain around.

And then it's pretty cool in the movie, you can still see Jennifer, you can still see the trailing effects of some of her ire and animosity.

Yeah, no, certainly it was not a great thing.

I mean, it's nice to be forgiven, obviously.

It's nice to be given second chances and all that good stuff.

And we touch on this in the doc a little bit.

What was interesting, that even after not the biggest disasters or the furthest falls, but

There was there there was a pattern of, you know, fucking things up, sending shit off the rails and then and then having a job literally on the other side of that event.

Once I had, you know, once I dusted myself off and, you know.

Got back ready to work.

So, yeah.

So, but, you know, I think there's two sides to that.

That didn't mean I had to take those jobs, but it also didn't mean that they always had to be there.

Does that make any sense?

I kind of went completely around that.

Of course it can.

Of course it can, yeah.

And there's also this thing about not having to deal with a ton of failure at first.

There's a little piece in the book where I mentioned that they teach us as kids if at first –

You know, you don't succeed.