Shawn (Sean) Ryan

Thank you so much.

And then... This is the first time I've given one of these out.

So...

You know, after interviewing so many tech innovators like yourself, it's made me want to get in the game really bad.

And then through a lot of the interviews I've done, I've interviewed a lot of high-profile people overseas and da-da-da-da-da.

So I've always been like...

very concerned about phone security 100 so i went down a rabbit hole to find the real black phone and um i found this company called glacier have you heard of it i have not no okay so glacier was started by a bunch of uh former intel guys uh in the intel service

And so that phone, it's a hardened iPhone.

And it has, I mean, they do an overwatch of the phone.

No data leaks out.

They have all American VPNs.

They have burner numbers.

so you an endless amount of burner numbers you can get any burner number any area code you want and so you know if you're doing a political donation booking a hotel ordering a pizza talking to somebody you never want to talk to again you know you can use one of those burner numbers and they will actually they can even tell if um they can't tell what it is but if pegasus were to wind up on it or something they'll they'll get they'll be able to know hey something's acting phony on your phone so it's like the ultimate

black phone and it has a secure messenger service that actually tunnels, tunnels your entire organization.

And so you can't have like a,

a signal debacle like we saw at the beginning of the administration.

It would be impossible to accidentally text Sean the reporter and not Sean the podcaster.

But yeah, I thought – so anyways, we're starting a company with them, and those are extremely expensive to get.

So I said, why don't we do a consumer-based – it's a little more application that has a lot of the same features but maybe not –

you know, quite that high speed that people can actually afford.