Shawn (Sean) Ryan

You just, you know, you can't buy a house in Nashville, you know what I mean?

Or San Francisco.

Yeah, or San Francisco.

But I think there are plenty of places to buy a house and remote working has become huge.

You know, I know it's shrinking a little bit.

I don't like remote work.

I'm not clear that works, but yeah.

But you know what I mean?

But I think the messaging has to change.

You have to empower people and tell them like,

i mean that's one of the reasons i do this show and bring people like you on here it's like you grew up blue collar family very small town in ohio and now you know you're the co-founder of andrew and and you know i think that i think that's inspiring i think that inspires a lot of people and it's it's a very different you know messaging than what most people see it's it's yeah i think be ashamed of who you are you know totally you were a slave owner

you're a victim of slavery you're you know what i mean and it's like dude this like what the are we doing here like you have to empower these people our people americans and and and ingrain it into their head that like you know this is the best country in the world this is you know the american dream still is very achievable and uh i'm a testament to that you're a testament to that a lot of the

People that work here are a testament of that.

I mean, a lot of the people on the show have been a testament to that.

But just like time and time again, it's like they're being taught

to lose.

Do you think we're destined to just go down the same path Europe went?

I mean, do you think we might...

Get on the right path here.

Europe is a fucking disaster.