Shekhar Natarajan

Think of your iPhone or whatever.

And so there are examples of where there is demonetization of these aspects.

Um, with, with all the reasons, like you probably could, like it's not necessarily, you know, when you're in the first starts of a technology, it's very expensive, right?

It's mainframe, but then it gets down to, you know, sort of, you know, iPod.

And so that to me is like, that's the hopeful part of like some of these breakthroughs, they might start being very sort of exquisite, but I would hope that the effort goes in to make them available.

There's a decreasing marginal utility to dollars.

Who dictates all of that?

Who's going to dictate all of that?

Government dictates some of it.

But when there's regulatory capture by corporates, then government doesn't have the power to be able to... We've seen a lot of examples of that.

We as a society, we haven't done that.

In the last, I don't know, I've been on this earth for the last 45 years, I've not seen this happen.

So when you end up with monopolies and regulatory capture and then essentially you're talking about a system which is so enclosed that you don't have checks and balances.

Or do alternatives need to be generated in order to provide alternatives so that when the system comes to a grinding hole, there's something else or other things that can then support?

I mean, I'm not a historian, but like...

So, longevity is a phenomenal topic, but the societal impact and all the things that need to be done is super important.

I'll give you a cow story.

A cow story.

So, I was one of those morons who used to think that drone delivery is going to happen tomorrow.

I was so convinced in 2015.