Shekhar Natarajan

It's always about consciousness.

Compassion, kindness...

the better angels of our nature, the good, the true, the beautiful.

And how to awaken that?

As a society, are we not going back in the opposite direction?

Like we want like fewer taxes from the corporates.

They're all celebrating it.

Are we not?

I mean, who wants fewer taxes?

Well, like all the corporations today, you know, they're all celebrating like taxes being less today.

It's such a complicated problem.

It's a complicated problem.

Well, this is Steven Pinker's idea, right?

I mean, that website, Human Progress, that talks about all the ways in which the world has improved across the board for even the people supposedly on the bottom.

Is there truth to that data?

So hasn't that played out?

Things aren't far from perfect, but...

you can track the ways things are better now than they used to be.

There are things that are better, and even things that every poor person has access to, the richest person in the world couldn't have had in 1950.

That's right.