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Sholto Douglas

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1567 total appearances

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Is RL + LLMs enough for AGI? โ€” Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken

And covering the downside is AI alignment research and this kind of stuff and automated testing and really thinking hard about that, AI safety institutes, this kind of stuff.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Is RL + LLMs enough for AGI? โ€” Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken

In this scenario.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Is RL + LLMs enough for AGI? โ€” Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken

I mean, like, dramatic allocation of, like, resource towards compute, I think, is sensible.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Is RL + LLMs enough for AGI? โ€” Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken

I would be doing that if I was in charge of a nation state.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Is RL + LLMs enough for AGI? โ€” Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken

I think it just increases your optionality in, like, most of the future worlds.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Is RL + LLMs enough for AGI? โ€” Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken

The US's line is like flat, basically, and China's line is like this.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Is RL + LLMs enough for AGI? โ€” Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken

Yes.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Is RL + LLMs enough for AGI? โ€” Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken

If intelligence becomes this like incredibly valuable input, like intelligence becomes almost a raw input into the economies and quality of life of the future, the thing directly underneath that is energy.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Is RL + LLMs enough for AGI? โ€” Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken

And so making sure that you have like...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Is RL + LLMs enough for AGI? โ€” Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken

incredible amounts of solar, like tile the desert in solar panels, some parts of the desert in solar panels, would be helpful towards making sure that you have more access to intelligence on top.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Is RL + LLMs enough for AGI? โ€” Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken

It's economically worthwhile to do so.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Is RL + LLMs enough for AGI? โ€” Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken

Even if algorithmic progress stalls out and we just never figure out how to keep progress going, which I don't think is the case.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Is RL + LLMs enough for AGI? โ€” Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken

That hasn't stalled out yet.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Is RL + LLMs enough for AGI? โ€” Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken

It seems to be going great.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Is RL + LLMs enough for AGI? โ€” Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken

The current suite of algorithms are sufficient to automate white-collar work provided you have enough of the right kinds of data.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Is RL + LLMs enough for AGI? โ€” Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken

And in a way that like compared to the TAM of salaries for all of those kinds of work is so like trivially worthwhile.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Is RL + LLMs enough for AGI? โ€” Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken

Yeah, exactly.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Is RL + LLMs enough for AGI? โ€” Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken

Now, that being said, I think Moravec's paradox is a little bit fake.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Is RL + LLMs enough for AGI? โ€” Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken

I think the main reason that robots are worse at being a robot than they are at software engineering is the internet exists for software engineering.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Is RL + LLMs enough for AGI? โ€” Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken

GitHub exists, and there is no equivalent thing.