Sholto Douglas

So that's definitely like, yeah.

We should talk about how you guys got hired because I think that's a really interesting story because you were a McKinsey consultant, right?

There's an interesting thing there where first of all, I think people are

Generally, people just don't understand how decisions are made about either admissions or evaluating who to hire or something.

Just talk about how were you noticed as you got hired?

Yeah.

There's a couple of things that stick out to me there.

One is not just the agency of the person who was hired, but the parts of the system that we're able to think, wait, that's really interesting.

Who is this guy?

Not from a grad program or anything.

You know, like currently a McKinsey consultant, just like an undergrad.

But that's interesting.

Let's like give this a shot, right?

So James and whoever else, that's like, that's very notable.

And that's... Second is...

I actually didn't know this part of the story where that was part of an experiment run internally about, can we do this?

Can we like bootstrap somebody?

And like, yeah.

And in fact, what's really interesting about that is the third thing you mentioned is

Having somebody who understands all layers of the stack and isn't so stuck on any one approach or any one layer of abstraction is so important.