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Shyam Sankar

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
945 total appearances

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The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

And building this around the software first. What does the software need to do? That is our lethal capability. Then how do I make it as, amazing for the warfighter as possible as a consequence. Rather than doing what we've done backwards so many times is we have this hardware platform, and then we're constrained by what software can we put in there.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

And building this around the software first. What does the software need to do? That is our lethal capability. Then how do I make it as, amazing for the warfighter as possible as a consequence. Rather than doing what we've done backwards so many times is we have this hardware platform, and then we're constrained by what software can we put in there.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

And it's not good enough, and it's not adaptable, and there's not enough compute. You kind of designed it backwards. And this is one of the paradoxes. So if you're a true historical hardware company, you can think about like building a house. If you're building a house, you've got to build the foundation first. You are entirely limited by the foundation. Software is not like that.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

And it's not good enough, and it's not adaptable, and there's not enough compute. You kind of designed it backwards. And this is one of the paradoxes. So if you're a true historical hardware company, you can think about like building a house. If you're building a house, you've got to build the foundation first. You are entirely limited by the foundation. Software is not like that.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

And it's not good enough, and it's not adaptable, and there's not enough compute. You kind of designed it backwards. And this is one of the paradoxes. So if you're a true historical hardware company, you can think about like building a house. If you're building a house, you've got to build the foundation first. You are entirely limited by the foundation. Software is not like that.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

With software, you've got to build the kitchen first, and you build the rest of the house around the main thing. And now we're starting to see that culture enter into defense. That's what Tesla does. That's what SpaceX does.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

With software, you've got to build the kitchen first, and you build the rest of the house around the main thing. And now we're starting to see that culture enter into defense. That's what Tesla does. That's what SpaceX does.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

With software, you've got to build the kitchen first, and you build the rest of the house around the main thing. And now we're starting to see that culture enter into defense. That's what Tesla does. That's what SpaceX does.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

In defense, we're starting to see that happen, where people are taking very sophisticated, the next generation of platforms, and they're starting with the software-first approach. What does this platform need to do? What are the threats? What do I need to be able to sense? What do I need to be able to affect? Can I even build that compute first? Which, by the way, goes pretty quickly.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

In defense, we're starting to see that happen, where people are taking very sophisticated, the next generation of platforms, and they're starting with the software-first approach. What does this platform need to do? What are the threats? What do I need to be able to sense? What do I need to be able to affect? Can I even build that compute first? Which, by the way, goes pretty quickly.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

In defense, we're starting to see that happen, where people are taking very sophisticated, the next generation of platforms, and they're starting with the software-first approach. What does this platform need to do? What are the threats? What do I need to be able to sense? What do I need to be able to affect? Can I even build that compute first? Which, by the way, goes pretty quickly.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

You can measure that in months, not years, certainly not decades. Once I get that right, now I have the constraints around what I can build my airframe or my land vehicle or my submersible around because I know it can accomplish the essential mission that I need and has the capabilities to do it.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

You can measure that in months, not years, certainly not decades. Once I get that right, now I have the constraints around what I can build my airframe or my land vehicle or my submersible around because I know it can accomplish the essential mission that I need and has the capabilities to do it.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

You can measure that in months, not years, certainly not decades. Once I get that right, now I have the constraints around what I can build my airframe or my land vehicle or my submersible around because I know it can accomplish the essential mission that I need and has the capabilities to do it.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

And you don't end up in these situations like with the frigate where you buy the frigate, you make a bunch of changes along the way, and you realize it won't float. The whole thing is for naught because you didn't start with the software-based approach. What about the boat? Yeah.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

And you don't end up in these situations like with the frigate where you buy the frigate, you make a bunch of changes along the way, and you realize it won't float. The whole thing is for naught because you didn't start with the software-based approach. What about the boat? Yeah.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

And you don't end up in these situations like with the frigate where you buy the frigate, you make a bunch of changes along the way, and you realize it won't float. The whole thing is for naught because you didn't start with the software-based approach. What about the boat? Yeah.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

The same concepts apply to surface vessels and submersibles and to airframes, actually, where you're really thinking about, our big challenge in the Pacific is, how do we get inside the weapon engagement zone? The enemy has been able to really build up a lot of air defenses and hypersonics, and they can threaten and hold us at risk when we're inside of this engagement zone.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

The same concepts apply to surface vessels and submersibles and to airframes, actually, where you're really thinking about, our big challenge in the Pacific is, how do we get inside the weapon engagement zone? The enemy has been able to really build up a lot of air defenses and hypersonics, and they can threaten and hold us at risk when we're inside of this engagement zone.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#190 Shyam Sankar - Chief Technology Officer of Palantir: The Future of Warfare

The same concepts apply to surface vessels and submersibles and to airframes, actually, where you're really thinking about, our big challenge in the Pacific is, how do we get inside the weapon engagement zone? The enemy has been able to really build up a lot of air defenses and hypersonics, and they can threaten and hold us at risk when we're inside of this engagement zone.