Sian Murray

Great and fun.

And I was like, oh, that's a really great way to reframe it.

And then so I got that, but also so much more from it, which I'm learning now and I will get to.

But yeah, I just think when it's not working, I know that it feels really hard because you put so much time into it.

But sometimes you just have to acknowledge that and call it and not be so scared of the failure because you have to fail to get where you want to go.

Yeah.

Yeah, I thought that, well, first of all, like everyone that I'd asked to believe in me would, like I broke that trust.

So if I ever tried to do anything else again, everyone would be like, oh, yeah, here she goes.

Like that was a big part of it.

Yeah, I think breaking the trust with everyone that I asked to believe in me was a big one.

Um, and then also, uh, like losing all the money that I put into it.

Um, like we walked away with no debt, so we didn't pay, we weren't able to pay back like the money that we invested into it.

Um, so that was like another really hard one as well.

Like I'd asked Patty to trust me that I was going to

sorry, that I was going to make our lives better for so long.

And I didn't.

But so that was hard too.

And yeah, I thought that I would lose faith in myself as well.

Like I just wouldn't know what to do.

But none of that's happened.