Sian Pattenden

And her act of defiance is taking herself seriously and writing it.

Yes, with the benefit of hindsight where it's all a little bit more cotton wool and we can deal with it and we're over that now.

You know that Elizabeth Wurzel is not over it.

She's not over it on that book cover.

She is not over it by the end of the book.

You know that this is an ongoing thing.

So carry on.

So why don't we put you all... We'll categorise, we'll pathologise, and we'll give you the answer.

The answer will be with that pill on a Monday, that pill on a Tuesday, and that's what will happen.

Yeah.

Rather than just being ignored or seen as a difficult woman.

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And you say it.

It's in real time.

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And if you remember Emma Forrest as well, a group of very, very young writers, they were teen writers at the time, coming up and being absolutely honest and very funny as well at the same time.

Yes, and drawing along the same thread.