Sian Pattenden

That's a very important point.

But what's interesting about, I think, about UK writers is that there's a facade to it.

It is a character, as you say.

They play the character of themselves in a weekly column, and sometimes they're a bit baity.

They're going to be provocative.

Elizabeth Wurzel isn't saying things for effect.

She isn't saying things for the sake of a book deal.

You know that it's coming from her, and I think that's the difference between her and Birchall, I would say.

And that's a very American thing, is that...

Our American friends are really not afraid to be themselves.

They don't have to have a sheen.

There's no music hall to it or let me entertain you.

It's this is who I am.

And it's quite ugly sometimes.

But say her voice was alone in this at the time.

She was pushing it through.

No one else that I could see was writing in exactly that same way.

So it's quite a good correlation with Courtney Love and Hole, actually, I think, in that way, is that, you know, they probably were in parallel rather than, you know, crossing over too much.

But there's something about this I bleed and you're going to see it idea about it.

And it's very brash and some people don't like it, but it doesn't matter.