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Simon Cooper

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284 total appearances

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The David McWilliams Podcast
Why Social Democracies Win World Cups

So who was Julien?

The David McWilliams Podcast
Why Social Democracies Win World Cups

Nobody knew.

The David McWilliams Podcast
Why Social Democracies Win World Cups

Nobody I ever spoke to had any sense of him.

The David McWilliams Podcast
Why Social Democracies Win World Cups

I didn't either when I started the book.

The David McWilliams Podcast
Why Social Democracies Win World Cups

And I thought, I looked for the sources.

The David McWilliams Podcast
Why Social Democracies Win World Cups

They're all in French.

The David McWilliams Podcast
Why Social Democracies Win World Cups

Okay, I live in France, speak French.

The David McWilliams Podcast
Why Social Democracies Win World Cups

So I thought, I'm going to figure out who this bloke was.

The David McWilliams Podcast
Why Social Democracies Win World Cups

And I go out and I cycle out an hour out of Paris to his grave.

The David McWilliams Podcast
Why Social Democracies Win World Cups

It was in a municipal cemetery, family grave.

The David McWilliams Podcast
Why Social Democracies Win World Cups

I go there.

The David McWilliams Podcast
Why Social Democracies Win World Cups

It took me half an hour to find it.

The David McWilliams Podcast
Why Social Democracies Win World Cups

Obviously, nobody had been there in many years.

The David McWilliams Podcast
Why Social Democracies Win World Cups

And there's a little gold plaque on the grave.

The David McWilliams Podcast
Why Social Democracies Win World Cups

Julien May gives his dates, doesn't say what he did in his life.

The David McWilliams Podcast
Why Social Democracies Win World Cups

He's really forgotten.

The David McWilliams Podcast
Why Social Democracies Win World Cups

So if you find his memoir, which had to go to the French National Library to read, etc.,

The David McWilliams Podcast
Why Social Democracies Win World Cups

who was this guy he's from a poor peasant family the parents move to paris they become grocers and he joins them in paris and so he lives among poor people there his family's low middle class he's a bright boy he studies law so he rises in the world but he lives among poor people and he thinks if poor men are going to play football seriously they have to be paid he was never really interested in playing football himself he just wanted to be a football administrator and very important part of his life stories in world war one for four years

The David McWilliams Podcast
Why Social Democracies Win World Cups

It's amazing he survived.

The David McWilliams Podcast
Why Social Democracies Win World Cups

He's in the trenches for four years.