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Sir Niall Ferguson

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
435 total appearances

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Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

The population is falling and it is falling faster than people expected so that base case halves between now and the end of the century.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

Second startling statistic, the public sector deficit is larger in China than in the United States today by IMF measure.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

Because if you look at local government, which of course a proper public sector measure does,

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

There's just a huge amount of public sector borrowing still going on.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

So you have actually got a public sector deficit north of 7% in China.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

That means there are limits to just how much fiscal stimulus they can do.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

And I think that the harsh reality is that despite the mood music coming out of Beijing, they still have a problem that is deflationary, that the property sector is very hard for them to fix.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

And whether they may say they're going to have a 5% growth target, I just don't think they're going to do it.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

I think they'll have to cook the books to get to 5%.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

Yeah, I think it's a new story.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

I'm not sure whether it's true, but it's certainly plausible enough at this point for the old story to be regarded with more skepticism by investors.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

Now, that's not to say that

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

that the hyperscalers aren't still ahead.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

And that's not to say that open AI is not making a lot of money.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

I gather they're making money right now by allowing people to generate an infinite number of cartoons of themselves.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

My general feeling is that if this is the net result of all of this innovation, we have a problem as a species.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

But let's just assume that there are more important things going on and say drug discovery.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

I think anybody who bets against Chinese engineering, anybody who bets against Chinese STEM is likely to lose their bet over a 10-year time horizon.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

The

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Sir Niall Ferguson decodes Trump, China, and the new world order

problem is that you're also making a bet on the CCP's ability to manage Chinese economic policy and national security.