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Sohrab Ahmari

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112 total appearances

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The Weekly Show with Jon Stewart
America's Factory Reset with Adam Tooze and Sohrab Ahmari

I agree. I agree. But, you know, I mean, there are jobs to protect right now in this in the sector because of its other dimensions of its national security dimension. The fact that, again, to go back to this idea that the Hamiltonian model sought to bind capital to place to political community.

The Weekly Show with Jon Stewart
America's Factory Reset with Adam Tooze and Sohrab Ahmari

I agree. I agree. But, you know, I mean, there are jobs to protect right now in this in the sector because of its other dimensions of its national security dimension. The fact that, again, to go back to this idea that the Hamiltonian model sought to bind capital to place to political community.

The Weekly Show with Jon Stewart
America's Factory Reset with Adam Tooze and Sohrab Ahmari

Right. And because of the capital investments involved, the manufacturing, the local factory boss is a lot more, I mean, he might be a jerk and you have to fight him with unions. And I'm all for that. As Adam knows, I'm a pretty, for someone who is of the center, right, I'm all for, you know, trying to boost our union density and all that.

The Weekly Show with Jon Stewart
America's Factory Reset with Adam Tooze and Sohrab Ahmari

Right. And because of the capital investments involved, the manufacturing, the local factory boss is a lot more, I mean, he might be a jerk and you have to fight him with unions. And I'm all for that. As Adam knows, I'm a pretty, for someone who is of the center, right, I'm all for, you know, trying to boost our union density and all that.

The Weekly Show with Jon Stewart
America's Factory Reset with Adam Tooze and Sohrab Ahmari

But still he's connect, he or she is connected to the local community in a way that Wall Street or distant, you know, Silicon Valley tech firms are not. But okay, so if we try our best to increase the manufacturing share of the workforce, that will hit a limit.

The Weekly Show with Jon Stewart
America's Factory Reset with Adam Tooze and Sohrab Ahmari

But still he's connect, he or she is connected to the local community in a way that Wall Street or distant, you know, Silicon Valley tech firms are not. But okay, so if we try our best to increase the manufacturing share of the workforce, that will hit a limit.

The Weekly Show with Jon Stewart
America's Factory Reset with Adam Tooze and Sohrab Ahmari

However, let's try at first, because the thing is, if we get to the point where we break corporate America's addiction to cheap labor, especially through offshoring, it will force them to pay higher wages here locally or to innovate. Right now, the current kind of globalization model that we're hopefully transitioning out of incentivizes them

The Weekly Show with Jon Stewart
America's Factory Reset with Adam Tooze and Sohrab Ahmari

However, let's try at first, because the thing is, if we get to the point where we break corporate America's addiction to cheap labor, especially through offshoring, it will force them to pay higher wages here locally or to innovate. Right now, the current kind of globalization model that we're hopefully transitioning out of incentivizes them

The Weekly Show with Jon Stewart
America's Factory Reset with Adam Tooze and Sohrab Ahmari

not to actually do labor-saving technologies, but to try to do the same things with cheaper and cheaper labor.

The Weekly Show with Jon Stewart
America's Factory Reset with Adam Tooze and Sohrab Ahmari

not to actually do labor-saving technologies, but to try to do the same things with cheaper and cheaper labor.

The Weekly Show with Jon Stewart
America's Factory Reset with Adam Tooze and Sohrab Ahmari

But just to finish this point, and I agree with that, you know, I welcome our robot overlords. Like, let's bring them over. And if we're going to have like a full luxury automated communism. Let them be our robots.

The Weekly Show with Jon Stewart
America's Factory Reset with Adam Tooze and Sohrab Ahmari

But just to finish this point, and I agree with that, you know, I welcome our robot overlords. Like, let's bring them over. And if we're going to have like a full luxury automated communism. Let them be our robots.

The Weekly Show with Jon Stewart
America's Factory Reset with Adam Tooze and Sohrab Ahmari

You know, and then, you know, you have an economy that can pay more for its caretakers, for the kinds of workers that Adam mentioned, that the strength of the manufacturing sector can absorb higher wages in, you know, Burger King or in, home healthcare and all those other sectors. But they won't.

The Weekly Show with Jon Stewart
America's Factory Reset with Adam Tooze and Sohrab Ahmari

You know, and then, you know, you have an economy that can pay more for its caretakers, for the kinds of workers that Adam mentioned, that the strength of the manufacturing sector can absorb higher wages in, you know, Burger King or in, home healthcare and all those other sectors. But they won't.

The Weekly Show with Jon Stewart
America's Factory Reset with Adam Tooze and Sohrab Ahmari

So the way I'd put this is that they're pursuing Hamiltonian means by Jacksonian ends. Now, let me explain that. By the way, both are in my wallet right now. Yes, exactly right. I just want to make that clear. May there be ever more of them.

The Weekly Show with Jon Stewart
America's Factory Reset with Adam Tooze and Sohrab Ahmari

So the way I'd put this is that they're pursuing Hamiltonian means by Jacksonian ends. Now, let me explain that. By the way, both are in my wallet right now. Yes, exactly right. I just want to make that clear. May there be ever more of them.

The Weekly Show with Jon Stewart
America's Factory Reset with Adam Tooze and Sohrab Ahmari

But Arthur Schlesinger, the great New Deal historian, described the New Deal project as Hamiltonian means for Jeffersonian ends, meaning using big governments, using sort of directing markets and so on and so forth. for the Jeffersonian ideal of a kind of prosperous, relatively egalitarian order. Of course, the Jeffersonian vision didn't include African-Americans in its ambit. Right.

The Weekly Show with Jon Stewart
America's Factory Reset with Adam Tooze and Sohrab Ahmari

But Arthur Schlesinger, the great New Deal historian, described the New Deal project as Hamiltonian means for Jeffersonian ends, meaning using big governments, using sort of directing markets and so on and so forth. for the Jeffersonian ideal of a kind of prosperous, relatively egalitarian order. Of course, the Jeffersonian vision didn't include African-Americans in its ambit. Right.

The Weekly Show with Jon Stewart
America's Factory Reset with Adam Tooze and Sohrab Ahmari

But still, the idea was to use this kind of big state interventionist model to achieve the small-r Republican Jeffersonian model. So now I think if you want to use these kind of categories, the Trumpians are coming in. They have I think Hamiltonian ends in mind. They want a manufacturing-led economy, et cetera, et cetera.

The Weekly Show with Jon Stewart
America's Factory Reset with Adam Tooze and Sohrab Ahmari

But still, the idea was to use this kind of big state interventionist model to achieve the small-r Republican Jeffersonian model. So now I think if you want to use these kind of categories, the Trumpians are coming in. They have I think Hamiltonian ends in mind. They want a manufacturing-led economy, et cetera, et cetera.