Soumaya Keynes
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first heard Jul 2026
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And the danger is that if you try to respond to that by protecting yourself, you go too far and you just descend into protectionism, you descend into kind of bi-local nationalist economic policies, and that can ultimately make you poorer.
I think the EU is muddling along.
It's not doing it perfectly and there are stumbles along the way, but it is trying to be targeted in its trade restrictions, in its response to the challenge of China.
It is trying to target the problem.
rather than go big, bold, and brash in the way that the US did.
Now, there are forces pushing for that big, bold, brash outcome, but so far, at least, they're trying to tread carefully.
The reason I wrote the book is because I felt that debates about trade can very quickly devolve into screaming matches, right?
Where you've got on one side people yelling that globalization is horrific and it should be reversed and China is evil and Trump is a crazy man.
And then the other side, you have people yelling, free trade is amazing, tariffs just cost consumers, liberalization has lifted millions and millions of people out of poverty, why are we messing that up?
Because I think that the middle is kind of where we need to be, right?
So I think it is the case that going back to the 2000s, the very fast liberalization, the very fast entry of China into the global trading system was very disruptive for communities.
We've got academic evidence linking places that were particularly affected by imports from China with votes for Brexit.
People were reacting to that even years later.
However, it is also possible to kind of go too far, right?
So now, if the reaction is, okay, great, we just need to close off and start making our own sippy cups again.
I'm not necessarily sure that is a great economic strategy.
If you look at manufacturing jobs and what people think of manufacturing jobs, their kind of job satisfaction in those jobs, they're not very fun jobs.
They can be very repetitive.
You can get a lot of autonomy.
I think working in a warehouse...
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