Soumaya Keynes

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Unhedged · The Economics Show: China wanted western tech. Now, the tables have turned. · 6 Aug 2026 podcast

Yeah.

And then the Apple case, I think, informed the Chinese government when it came to, say, investments from Tesla, right?

Maybe they didn't need a joint venture.

Do you think that was the right message to take away in that case?

Okay, well, let us now move on from what China did and talk more concretely about today.

Because we do have Western governments thinking about doing a reverse dong and trying to pull in this Chinese technology.

Now, you're obviously sounding quite positive about joint venture requirements.

What message would you give to, say, European policymakers today considering trying to change their regulatory system, impose these conditions on Chinese companies considering investing in Europe?

So what you mean by that is going to, say, Hungary or Spain and saying, hey, we're happy to invest, but you need to be nice to us.

We're not going to hand over our tech.

OK, so that's Europe.

Should the U.S.

be embracing this policy as well?

I suppose there's also a question about the supply, right?

And so, you know, the EU, the US, they may or may not want to attract Chinese investment.

I suppose the big change, though, is that one, those Chinese investors may worry about expropriation.

the government were to change and suddenly decide that actually they think the security risk is overwhelming.

But also, I think what you've seen is the Chinese state being much less relaxed than Western governments were about this tech transfer, right?

So we're seeing technology export controls, you know, companies may not be allowed to go forth and share their technology with Western companies.

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