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And then I would respond by saying, yes, it's true the Ukrainian people want to fight, but might that have something to do with the blank check that they've received from the world and the backup of the entire world?

It's a different proposition to go like,

Do you want to fight if John Jones is at your back and goes, I got your back, dude.

Let's go fuck these guys up.

You're like, hell yeah, I want to fight.

But then John Jones leaves, I might be like, ah, let's talk about this.

But now the Ukrainian people don't want to fight.

And by the way, I never believed any of that because I have my own libertarian views on things.

And I'm like, if you're telling me that people want to fight, well, why do you got to conscript an army then?

If they want to fight so bad...

Well, you got to put a gun to their head and force them to the front line.

Yeah, you could just make it a voluntary force and then we'll find out real quick who wants to fight.

But the point is now that even the Ukrainians don't want to fight over this stuff anymore.

So there's just no justification for it.

So now they move to...

Phase B, which is essentially to pretend like they're negotiating, but putting all types of poison pills in the deal so that you know the other side won't take it.

This is what they did with Iran, too.

This is why we got into that 12-day war, as they're calling it now.

You know, it's like you put things into the... I was just reading the other day.

It was on Axios.