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Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast
Patreon Episode: Spelling Bee - Are You Garbage (FULL)
Let's also be flexible that if this is incredibly hard, we're switching it up a little bit. Okay. Go ahead.
Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast
Patreon Episode: Spelling Bee - Are You Garbage (FULL)
Narcissistic. Ooh, that's a fucking... Oh, man, you get in the weeds in the middle of this thing.
Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast
Patreon Episode: Spelling Bee - Are You Garbage (FULL)
What did you get wrong there?
Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast
Patreon Episode: Spelling Bee - Are You Garbage (FULL)
You said did. Flabbergasted. I mean, we got the Northeast.
Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast
Patreon Episode: Spelling Bee - Are You Garbage (FULL)
I was just pulling cool words. Fucking Winklevoss Diaries?
Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast
Patreon Episode: Spelling Bee - Are You Garbage (FULL)
Entrepreneur. Entrepreneur. How about apropos?
Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast
Patreon Episode: Spelling Bee - Are You Garbage (FULL)
I have E-N-T-R-A, entre. No A's. Pra. P-R-A. No. No A's. Oh, and I put R-O-R. No, that's an N. N-O-R.
Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast
Patreon Episode: Spelling Bee - Are You Garbage (FULL)
Start doing double or nothing. Yeah, but that's just... Switch to math.
Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast
Patreon Episode: Spelling Bee - Are You Garbage (FULL)
Country of origin, please.
Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast
Patreon Episode: Spelling Bee - Are You Garbage (FULL)
What is that? You can't use a word to describe itself in its own definition.
Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast
Patreon Episode: Spelling Bee - Are You Garbage (FULL)
That's pretty good.
Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast
Patreon Episode: Spelling Bee - Are You Garbage (FULL)
I told you. I kept telling you. Arachno. Oh, no.
Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast
Patreon Episode: Spelling Bee - Are You Garbage (FULL)
All right, that's just one point. Eight to two. Why is it two? Eight to two. Oh, eight to two. Right. All right, let's go. All right. Just heat it up.
Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast
Patreon Episode: Spelling Bee - Are You Garbage (FULL)
Two to one. Can't get a cheap pack of heaters, at least. Jerry Mander. Jerry Mander. Jerry.
Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast
Patreon Episode: Spelling Bee - Are You Garbage (FULL)
Okay. Now we're making a move. All right. Let me find another word. Go ahead. Oh, God, dude.
Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast
Patreon Episode: Spelling Bee - Are You Garbage (FULL)
What's the score right now? Nine to four. So he could bet nine. No, I'm only allowed to bet one. Until you catch up.
Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast
Patreon Episode: Spelling Bee - Are You Garbage (FULL)
Whoa, it sucks.
Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast
Patreon Episode: Spelling Bee - Are You Garbage (FULL)
Wow, I haven't done that in...
Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast
Patreon Episode: Spelling Bee - Are You Garbage (FULL)
Consequently. Like consequently, he lost his job.
Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast
Patreon Episode: Spelling Bee - Are You Garbage (FULL)
Con-sequent-ly or con-sequent-ly? I'm giving you phonetic definitions.
Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast
Patreon Episode: Spelling Bee - Are You Garbage (FULL)
Decentralization.
Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast
Patreon Episode: Spelling Bee - Are You Garbage (FULL)
Centralization. I got it. Decentralization.
Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast
Patreon Episode: Spelling Bee - Are You Garbage (FULL)
All right. All right. So. Five to one. Five to one. It's the last one.
Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast
Patreon Episode: Spelling Bee - Are You Garbage (FULL)
We're not having turkey. Ham.
Lemme Say This
Normalize Gay Chaos (with Watch What Crappens) | 43
Oh, gosh. Lovers. Big time lover. Yeah. We're lovers. I mean, I'm a hater. My personality type is that I'm kind of a hater. Like, that's just kind of my humor. But I do it out of love. I think if we hated it, we wouldn't be able to do it every day, you know? Yeah. The times that it veers into hate, it gets super uncomfortable and people are like, Jesus, why are you so mad? Yeah.
Lemme Say This
Normalize Gay Chaos (with Watch What Crappens) | 43
Yeah. That's what my therapist says. Yeah, exactly.
Lemme Say This
Normalize Gay Chaos (with Watch What Crappens) | 43
Oh, my God. Love and hate. I mean, both of them. And I think Bethany is—I love Bethany. I love to hate Bethany because she's so obnoxious. But I also have to see what she's given us, you know? And Ramona's the same way. I mean, Ramona, you look at—and especially Ramona's recent history, like her last season of the show. I mean, just monstrous.
Lemme Say This
Normalize Gay Chaos (with Watch What Crappens) | 43
But people got so mad, and I was like, where have you been? What show have you even been watching? Like, have you been watching this with a blindfold on? She's a monster. She's always been a monster, you know? Yeah.
Lemme Say This
Normalize Gay Chaos (with Watch What Crappens) | 43
And look, if you don't put people on a platform, you don't have anything to push them off of.
Lemme Say This
Normalize Gay Chaos (with Watch What Crappens) | 43
Both. God, you're picking such good ones because Kenya's another one who it's like I see everything that she's contributed. And a lot of that is laughs to me. I mean, I've laughed so hard at Kenya over the years. And then she's hit those points where here's where I start the hating. Show up to work. And I feel like a lot of times Kenya is just like, no, I don't like this.
Lemme Say This
Normalize Gay Chaos (with Watch What Crappens) | 43
And she just wouldn't show up or she would be hours late. And she was just like, you're below me. I'm not even going to fight with you. And that's when I start getting like, now you're wasting my time. Because I'm sitting here waiting for you to show up to work and you're not coming. But to think of a season without her is depressing me.
Lemme Say This
Normalize Gay Chaos (with Watch What Crappens) | 43
So I have to understand that I also love her enough that I miss her already.
Lemme Say This
Normalize Gay Chaos (with Watch What Crappens) | 43
Love, love, pure love. I can never hate Karen Huger. So pure.
Lemme Say This
Normalize Gay Chaos (with Watch What Crappens) | 43
Oh, I just love her. I mean, she is so effortlessly delusional. I mean, even her DUI tape. It's like the best thing of the year. Why wasn't that at the Oscars? Like, what is that being nominated for?
Lemme Say This
Normalize Gay Chaos (with Watch What Crappens) | 43
It was amazing. Thomas Jefferson's concubine? I mean, come on. I love her.
Lemme Say This
Normalize Gay Chaos (with Watch What Crappens) | 43
And she was arrested because she was banging somebody in the wrong room. She was so drunk that she went to the wrong room and the door was open or something. And she just started having sex with somebody. So, I mean, these are like great. And I can't be morally outraged by things watching Housewives. You know, you can't mix the two or you'll never watch one.
Lemme Say This
Normalize Gay Chaos (with Watch What Crappens) | 43
Yeah, mine are, I love NeNe Leakes. I mean, no one compares to the amount of gifs that that woman is even still in on every thread about Housewives.
Lemme Say This
Normalize Gay Chaos (with Watch What Crappens) | 43
True, very true. Or not Housewives. It could be about regular news, and you still see NeNe pop up in every comment section. I love her. I think she's fun. I think she had kind of a bad end.
Lemme Say This
Normalize Gay Chaos (with Watch What Crappens) | 43
She got a little too toxic towards the end, but I loved her. I still love Lisa Vanderpump. And it's kind of controversial, but I don't care. I love her. And I love her fun manipulations. And I just loved her. I thought she was great.
Lemme Say This
Normalize Gay Chaos (with Watch What Crappens) | 43
You'll have fun with that one. Brandi goes completely cuckoo.
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Normalize Gay Chaos (with Watch What Crappens) | 43
She bottomed for Vanderpump though. Yeah. She played beta for Vanderpump and then she just couldn't take it anymore. And then she went crazy and then she like completely switched it up. Yeah. Which I think is why she's one of the most hated. But Lisa Vanderpump's just effortless person. disdain. But it was always fun. It was like, ugh, shut up. I just really liked her and her fuzzy little dogs.
Lemme Say This
Normalize Gay Chaos (with Watch What Crappens) | 43
And you never knew if that dog was alive or dead. And then it would die, but then she'd show up with another one that looked just like it. There's just something so weird about her that I love.
Lemme Say This
Normalize Gay Chaos (with Watch What Crappens) | 43
Ben loves a snotty housewife. But kind of a housewife's journey and what makes them like great in the end is when they're just so high on themselves and then you just watch life beat them down. And I always say it's like that movie where Robert Redford has to like train horses or whatever. And like he has to break the horse and for the horse to ride.
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Normalize Gay Chaos (with Watch What Crappens) | 43
Like I grew up in Texas and around horses sometimes. I never really knew about that, like the breaking the horse and how they just have to be brought down until they're finally like a good horse. And I think and I hate comparing, you know, like I'm not comparing women to horses.
Lemme Say This
Normalize Gay Chaos (with Watch What Crappens) | 43
I'm just saying that the idea of like they have to be so wild and crazy and then life just gets them, you know, and life really got Luann. I mean, it got her good. And then she came out stronger for it. And, you know, so. Well, I don't know stronger, but more fine.
Lemme Say This
Normalize Gay Chaos (with Watch What Crappens) | 43
Well, I think it needs that. And I think that they're kind of relying on the old stars of them a little because they're just so crazy and they feel like they can't find anybody like wacky anymore. Like you brought up the new New York a couple of times and that they're like, let's just really try getting people who people identify with. Like, let's get Erin.
Lemme Say This
Normalize Gay Chaos (with Watch What Crappens) | 43
She just wants kids and she doesn't really want to do anything. And that But she likes fashion. You know, people don't want that. They need to find crazy people. I don't care. Walk into any room in the Upper East Side of New York and you'll find a
Lemme Say This
Normalize Gay Chaos (with Watch What Crappens) | 43
freaking crazy yes middle-aged woman it's not like they're hard to come by yeah throw a rock out your window you'll but but for some reason they're kind of trying to switch up their casting where they're like let's get like young people who have a lot of instagram followers we don't care about that we want to watch cartoon characters so i think if they retool it and they have kind of their old school casting in mind then they'll do okay but if they keep trying this real housewives of new york route it's just not gonna work
Lemme Say This
Normalize Gay Chaos (with Watch What Crappens) | 43
Yeah, we like that too, but that's totally different. I mean, Salt Lake City, the Housewives version. It's fun because now that you've watched, you guys have watched kind of the best of the Housewives already. So now you're going to watch, like, the community theater version. It's like they're making it up. They don't know their lines. There's no one there helping them.
Lemme Say This
Normalize Gay Chaos (with Watch What Crappens) | 43
Like, half of their scenes are shot on the side of the road. I'm not even kidding you. They'll, like, pull over into a parking lot and shoot a party. Because no one will let them shoot. They set up Kirkland chairs. They're all, like, completely messed up. And they're just... They're kind of dummies. But... They're just doing it together. It's like an improv team.
Lemme Say This
Normalize Gay Chaos (with Watch What Crappens) | 43
Like, let's do some bad improv, you know? And it's so funny.
Lemme Say This
Normalize Gay Chaos (with Watch What Crappens) | 43
It's so good. It's so corny, and they can't help being corny. And then as it gets into it, they get more real, but they don't mean to, you know? That's a good one.
Lemme Say This
Normalize Gay Chaos (with Watch What Crappens) | 43
Thank you. Thank you, guys. This was so much fun.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
All the Tabletop are outplaying us.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
For Tabletop RPG.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
It's annoying for those individuals.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
And we won't be talking about that here, but that's probably why it's been a light RPG news week, because there's been stuff going on.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
But yeah. It's the theme of the week, isn't it, TJ? Anyway, yeah, Twitch. Talk about Twitch.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
is I mean it doesn't really sit right when like your existence is political it feels bad yeah yeah no I was looking up on this because I do every week as everyone knows again this is Mike she's talking about Baldur's Gate 3 this week so I do a weekly Baldur's Gate 3 live stream with a group of other women who work in the games industry and amongst us we're a group of queer some of us are trans and so when this came up we normally stream on Twitch and we're like oh because sometimes we talk about these things because it's the Baldur's
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
gate three cocktail hour with a bunch of girls having a drink so sometimes and i was like are we going to have to label our content as political now because it's generally not like but in terms of the service it counted but they have done an update on it like maybe a backtrack or clarification whatever you want to call it and they have said you don't actually now require a label if you're speaking about your own lived experience on topics
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
such as gender, race, sexuality, or religion. They've clarified in terms of politics, you can have informational educational content that shares knowledge in a neutral manner. So for example, they've given the US political situation.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
They said, so you could share the history of how votes in the US works, how the election works, how they're counted, or encourage the concept of people to vote or register and vote. Those things are all okay. But if you're making a post supporting a specific candidate, that would need to be tagged as political content. And the same with sensitive social issues.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
If you were making like if you were like, I'm going to have a political show talking about this particular group's rights and advocacy for them and things, then that would need to be tagged as that content. But if you are just a person existing in any minority group, you don't have to tag it as such is what they've clarified. And there is an article on.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
So they've kind of clarified on it because before it was unclear. But it's important. Yeah. So that's kind of my understanding of the situation currently. So if you, like myself, are a queer Twitch streamer, you don't need to tag yourself as such constantly on every stream you do. It's my understanding.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
I mean, possibly. We were streaming on Wednesday, because that's Wednesday when we streamed. So, yeah, this all kind of came about on Tuesday, and we're like, oh, what are we doing tomorrow, ladies? What's happening here? But yeah, everything's fine, and our streams are still up, so clearly everything's okay. You know? Anyway.
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That's what's going on. That was what the hoo-ha was with Twitch. But Twitch have some support articles going into more detail if you want to read it and check and clarify for yourself.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
No one I know, but PJ, I don't know if you've heard different...
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
They can't really say anything.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
Yeah, they're doing late pledges on Kickstarter because Kickstarter has that feature now.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
Quite a few people.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
Nice. In the top 10.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
I imagine it'll do well at retail as well because it feels almost, like you said before, a coffee table pretty good. So if you know a friend really likes Terry Pratchett, and even if you're not a gamer, you might see that and be like, oh, this is a thing my friend might like, you know, or something like that. It feels like a good retail product in that sense.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
They wouldn't need an entire book giving you advice on how to play the game, for example, like other systems might need.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
And today in the Tabletop RPG.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
I haven't picked it up because I know enough people around me are picking it up that I'll get a chance to play.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
I was counting on you were going to run it sometime and I was going to get it to play.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
There you go.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
Apart from the fact that the Monster Smasher 2 is going to be launching next week.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
Maybe we have Paul Hughes on next week to talk about that.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
I think.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
Yeah. I didn't know about a cape.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
So we'll talk about that then, but that is happening.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
No, I can do a better one than that, but I'll save that for another one. That was pretty good. Thank you.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
It depends when they're listening to it.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
It could be tomorrow or in the past from the listener's perspective.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
It is, yes. It's all in the Jeremy Beremy of it all.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
Should we talk about the Dungeon Master's Guide? Yes, yeah. It's a bit of a dry segue, but it's efficient.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
I met David Attenborough.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
Listen to the last episode Mike was on if you'd like to hear more about that.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
I ran an event for him and not just for him. It wasn't like his, but anyway, it was for the Wildlife Trust and he came in and saw me and it went very good. And either he was hitting on me or he was happy with the event. Either way, I'm delighted. So that's my, and that's one of my claim to fame.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
Do they have to be my friends? Can they not just be acquaintances?
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
Oh.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
No, I don't know. I haven't vetted them.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
Oh, no, no. Wrong way around. Anyway.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
I don't know if you guys know what it's like to be a woman in the world, but that is not the right attitude to strangers. Anyway, so let's actually talk about the Dungeon Masters, guys. We've been talking about it a lot because we've seen so many previews and so much stuff, but I've not actually read through the book and had a copy.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
So what are your thoughts as somebody who actually has got their copy?
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
What more do you want, Russ? Have you got better than a very good friend?
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
This was like 15 years ago.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
This was about 15 years ago.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
Do you know what? Still spry.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
I'm fine, DJ. What do you got for us?
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
I thought my anecdote was great, but yeah, fine.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
Yeah. Or they want new people to have that expectation.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
Right.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
I mean, that's definitely how I learned as well. Like I joined a role-playing club and that's when I started playing. But notice I played for about a decade before I even attempted to start running games. But I think actually there's a lot of people that do. If they're not part of an RPG community at all and it's a bunch of like four friends that's like, I want to start trying this.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
I know a lot of people that someone's just been tagged it to run a game and has had to figure it out. So I think there are some people that actually... There you go. Eleven?
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
But I do think there are some people that come to it still now, which seems strange because there's so much media and there is like actual plays and you've got references on like Stranger Things where people can like see and like... But I think there are some people that just are a group of friends like, I don't know, we'll figure this out.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
And for some Dungeon Masters, that book will actually be their first introduction and... guide that feels a bit twisted like that, but that'll be their main guide. How do I do this? How do I figure this out?
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
Yeah, I think that's a really good point. I think maybe all of us have been at a table with a GM who has their world and their story and someone tries to add to it. They're like, oh, well, I want my person to be from here. And let's say that they had this culture where this happened and the GM was like, no, I don't want that. It's like, oh, and that immediately makes the table vibe be like,
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
I had a friend come to that conclusion. They were writing a role-playing game and they're like, oh man, but it's just, I don't, I just want to like control and do this myself. And it's like, I realized I want to write a book.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
Right. So not legally, not legally.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
Yeah, absolutely. The area games as well, if that setting doesn't suit you, they use the system for a variety of different settings. It's kind of, it reminded me a bit of a toolbox of RPG because they've used it for every setting you can kind of think of where you could easily hack your own with it. And also they were, we've had Ed on the Not D&D show where we talked about the game for 40 minutes.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
So if that brief intro was interesting to you, then there's a whole episode of Not D&D talking about the game specifically. So if you want to hear more about it.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
Yes. How about that? How about that? Yeah, that's awesome. But the Kickstarter's live now, did you say?
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
Excellent.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
I was. What a good segue. So, yes, the piece of news we have this week. So, Blades in the Dark has an official expansion. So, obviously, Blades in the Dark is the RPG, and loads of people have done third-party stuff, so you can find loads of games using this system. But this is an official one by the creator, John Harper. So, it adds new factions. It's got new mechanics.
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
It's got background options. So, it's a setting and also system expansion. But, yeah, I think this is the first...
Morrus’ Unofficial Tabletop RPG Talk
323 | Diving into the 2024 Dungeon Master's Guide: Insights and Analysis With Mike Shea
one john's done for the setting she says yes oh yes it's the first official one it's the first official one yeah cool i thought so i just felt underconfident for a moment but yeah so so that is going to be coming out and when is that when is that is that out now or is it she says not being clear about that it's not something i know let me look now i think it is out now on itch yes you can just get it you can just get on it yeah it cost me ten dollars i just bought it
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me jessica from em publishing that was that was quite a nice intro thank you very much but i am not alone pj you have someone else to introduce very true and in the words of the late great benny mays
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Oh, great. There we go. So yeah, I was just checking in with that now.
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Yeah, you can also get the complete bundle. But I did get a fine new product. Yeah, you can get up on that. And then I'm sure at some point it'll be available as a physical book as well if you like those sorts of things as well. But yeah, at the moment that is available. And if you like Blazing the Dark, it's more of what you like. And for $10, you can't really complain about that.
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It was a written online thing. We had a look at what was currently there in the 2014 one, I think.
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Yeah, and your own system, what's old is new, is in the D6 dice ball system.
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Yeah, calm down. All right. Well, let's move on from another piece of news then. If you don't want to talk about D6 dice ball systems, what else do you want to talk about?
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Okay.
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I can see us jumping into next week's topic. Shall we save some of these?
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Shall I call time on this week's topic? Because we're here talking about the DMG. I feel that we've done that.
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And we know we've got plenty we want to talk about next week.
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Thanks a lot, everyone.
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Sounds pun-tastic.
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It's Christmas.
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Yeah. All right. Well then, Critical Role Christmas then.
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Yeah, but this is when it starts, isn't it?
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Did you?
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I mean, sometimes we need a budget for these things.
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Okay. Do you have any other news, PJ, to maybe move us on?
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Yeah, take a look. Is it an RPG?
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full price is seven dollars and it's on sale right now so yeah it's pretty cheap i mean it's like it's like an rpg stocking for that there we go yeah actually that does sound like a nice something to get your gm as a little present or something yeah so it's like a you build a mine and it's almost like a bit of world building stuff and then i guess you could use it in your rpg it's like a solo game
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All right, let's quickly mention the Monstrous Menagerie 2. Already too late.
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I need them to exist.
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Yeah.
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All right, that's a cool little dwarf find. I like that.
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Shall we pitter in some maybe not as exciting news of the Apple Patreon situation?
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Everyone else in the podcast now is like, oh, really? Okay, let's do that.
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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes
He's been a great find.
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The Clippers was more of his offensive numbers.
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Yeah, Tibbs is just balancing the minutes pretty well now, playing him only 14 minutes. He doesn't play him a ton. Same with Mitchell Robinson in the starting lineup, having his first good game, but also not overplaying him under 20 minutes. Yeah, he's found it. And you're right, Trey. Maybe in the first game, if Payne sits, things are different.
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Because Payne tries to do a little too much in those minutes, as we always see. But Shamit's got it right right now. He's playing it right. DeLon Wright also doing the same thing.
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Sorry, it seemed like in this game, they waited way too long. They just didn't get into their offense until five seconds left. And Obi Toppin really didn't have a choice. He's like, okay, I'll do it. They were late.
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My friend Phil that I was sitting with saw that Hal Burton shot, and he said, whoa, what is he doing? He's trying to win the game here in this quarter? It was literally at the end of the shot clock. It didn't happen very often. Then T.J. McConnell laced it up and shot a three. I mean, they had no... No real spark. And Halliburton just was sparkless coming off that great game.
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It's rare for them to win games when he has such few points. It doesn't happen. 26 and 27 overall this entire season when he scores under 20 points. Now 0 of 2 when he's done it in the playoffs here. And when he scores, period, they're 31 and 4 when he scores 20 or more. Yeah.
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It's a long time.
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Yeah. That game five, Milwaukee, it's fun. I know it seems like. That was like 10 years ago. Years ago. But literally, Gary Trent couldn't catch the ball. Here comes John Halliburton to confront Yancey DeCubo.
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I think he was playing for the win and not to lose. This is a rare scenario where you want to play not to lose.
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I'd say it's more of a gift card at the MSG Stadium.
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Can Leo last through the playoffs? Guess not. We've been proven correct.
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Yeah, but fans are closer to the game here. Yeah, fans are closest to the game. Yeah, they go for a little walk up there. Sometimes, you know, when you get fouled, you kind of go for a walk and cool off in between like six rows of fans. You don't get that at Lambeau.
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It's the most he's ever flexed, I'd say.
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And the guy he did it to was Ben Mathurin, which is like, I'm way bigger than you, dude.
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Great line. I think we're at that point in the playoffs where even broadcasters are saying, man, I've been working hard for six weeks. And he's like, I want to be done with things. I think that's what it is. He's the Leo Gaumont of broadcasters. He's getting a little tired right now. It happens. It happens. It happens to the TNT guys.
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They didn't have to celebrate and say goodbye as their last broadcast.
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They'll be back on Saturday night. And next year and the year after that, probably. Hopefully.
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What was their slogan in the first series?
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That one last night was unbelievable.
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That was hamstring.
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I don't want to do the numbers, but how many people are searching for it? How many is that elevated? But there was the one where Steph pulled his hamstring and hamstring recovery time also spikes. That's believable. They do a good job.
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I'm fresh out. Fresh out of notes. I have a note. I'm not trying to bait here, but I think Tyrese Halliburton carries the most out of anybody in the playoffs right now and gets away with it, as in puts his palm under the ball. I'm not trying to bait. I'm not trying to say he's overrated, which is always fun to think about because the whole overrated thing has taken another level. I mean.
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When we think back, when you actually think back on it, 90 players actually took the poll. So 90 of the 450, all right? So like 20% of players. So just 20%. And 14.4% of them. So 13 of those 90 players said he's overrated. So 13 players in the best league in the world said he's overrated. Who knows who those players are?
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But it has permeated into the whole basketball world now that he's overrated.
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That's funny how things work like that. Hey, a little vestige in your head.
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I couldn't tell if Trey was just stretching out his kimono, but it was his leg. Yeah, that was backy. My backy boy. Oh, back.
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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes
All I want to say is that I'm sitting with my friend Phil last night watching the game. And I want I want to point it out. I want to point out because I'm watching a man dribble. He's got such good handles, but he's able to put his hand under the ball a little bit. So I just say, do you think he's palming it? Do you think he's carrying the ball? He said, who? Which guy?
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It doesn't resonate, I think, with some people watching the game, but he does it so well, and it's just such a fine line for refs to call. Anyway, I'm okay with it, I guess, but I kind of don't like it at the same time. It's like he's almost palming it. He's so close.
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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes
I buy into the idea that it's nearly three months. I'm rounding up. Two and a half plus months of them not losing two in a row. I'm buying into that. Indiana takes care of business?
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Now, would you like to get older when you don't know if Kyrie's playing next year? There's some optimism that'll come back, but why would you want to take that chance? Along with Anthony Davis, who was also injured, it would be it'd be wild. I mean, yes, I think we're Charles. Was it Charles or Charlie?
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It was a Charlie with this email is believing in Nico Harrison, just doing whatever he wants, I suppose, and going for it right here, right now. And obviously, Kevin Durant makes them. A step better. And I wanted to pick the Dallas Mavericks if they were healthy in some series last year. Or this year. This year. Right here, right now. I probably would have if they were healthy.
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But how can you buy into this team when you don't know if they're going to be healthy? Unless Nico's just a wild one. Unless that's the case. Which sounds absolutely nuts. Everybody's getting older. Clay is extremely old. Then you're going to get an even older guy. You've got an injured Kyrie, an injured Anthony Davis for a lot of the season. The sure thing is Koop.
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Yeah, Spurs technically 13th. 13th? Wow, okay. Yeah, they dropped off. They're a couple games back of the Suns and the Blazers, but obviously injuries were a part of that. Kevin Durant, unless you know that he's going to play until his early 40s, this is 37-year-old Kevin Durant. I mean, are you going to get five years of him plus Wemby plus De'Aaron Fox?
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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes
Well, you said Jalen Brunson, his stat line. You've got to start with that guy because he started this game. Possession after possession, it was going through him, and I said, how is he getting so open? I had to go back and check the tape. What is going on? I thought Tibbs made a nice little adjustment. He was coming off the ball way more.
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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes
I mean, it sounds like you're just bidding on... A short time. That's a short window for Kevin Durant. Although, as you mentioned about the picks that the Spurs have banked, there's a ton of them. They do have a ton of them to trade. unless you're a doctor and you know Kevin Durant's literally going to play until he's 44. I mean, I don't know.
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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes
It's hard to think that after what he's gone through physically, but I don't know, modern medicine, I don't know. I don't know. He's had an extremely, extremely long career to this point. So that would be taking a risk.
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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes
Exploding Steve, good question. I do not think the Celtics are punting by any means, but do they need to switch it up? To some degree. I think Kristaps Porzingis and the one year he has left is more likely to be moved than Drew Holliday's in three years and a good amount of money because it's more tradable, frankly, to trade Kristaps Porzingis.
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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes
That being said, I do think the Clippers do want to go for it, and we'll get into a little bit of Clippers rumors a little bit later in the show. Holiday would be perfect, taking the place of Chris Dunn in that starting lineup to go along with Harden, Kawhi, Zubats. Those are the three locks you've got to keep. And probably Powell. What do the Celtics get out of it, though?
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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes
The Clippers have their own pick in 29. The Sixers pick in 29. If you put a little bit of... sort of parameters on that. It's not going to be unrestricted. Anyways, I'm not sure exactly what goes in terms of picks, but a Bogdan and Derek Jones Jr. could work along with a pick. I know we're getting a little bit ahead of ourselves.
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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes
They were getting Aaron Neesmith into picks, and Jalen Brunson was getting into that action, and because of it, he was getting some open space. He also didn't bring the ball up. He didn't allow the Pacers to go get him at midcourt line again, so Brunson got off to that incredible start. He also started using Mitchell Robinson's verticality on the offensive end for the first time.
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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes
Right, right. Yeah, it would be definitely a protected pick. But the Bogdan plus Derek Jones Jr., who I think would fit well with the Celtics, that guy. I'm not sure if they have the exact talent for the Celtics, but Derek Jones Jr., underpaid, could fit. Those numbers in Bogdan and Derek Jones Jr. are way shorter than what Drew Holiday is getting. Yeah.
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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes
And maybe Holiday has, even though it's three years, I think he does have something left, even though this year was not a good one. But maybe he's a one and done type of guy. And by one and done, I mean one championship and you're gone. You win with the Bucs, time to go. You win with the Celtics, time to go and be good. That was a weird, this was a bad year for Drew. I just don't see him.
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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes
Yeah, that was odd how he finished against the Knicks in that one possession, but the way he guarded Jalen Brunson and hit him from behind, that wasn't true. And he's not super-duper old, but guys can fall off.
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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes
Yeah, and he would play off the ball. Again, if it was a Clippers thing, they'd want him to take the place of Chris Dunn, a guy you could rely on to shoot the three ball instead of having to yank him off the floor. But I don't know what the Celtics get for them exactly, if they don't get precisely what they want from the Clippers. I'm not 100% sure on that.
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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes
He had his best game at whether it was flipping screens and then getting to the rim. And then Towns, we can go through the entire Knicks lineup because Towns was frigging awesome. How powerful he was, how strong he was on the drives, in post opportunities. We're seeing a Pacers team that's just struggling to guard him overall, period, in the post. 24-13 for Towns.
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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes
He's averaging 25-12 in this series. And I know you watch some of this from the Pacers' perspective. He said, well, he got away with fouls there in the second quarter when they started that 14-2 run. He hit Toppin. But they brought... the force in this game. So yes, you get calls, especially on home court. And so I thought that was okay, but to see towns and Brunson do that.
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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes
Here we go. First one. Giannis Antetokounmpo is still mulling his future in Milwaukee, according to ESPN's Sham Sharanya. Skeets, what are you currently mulling?
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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes
I totally don't think it looks like a basketball shoe.
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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes
All right, Trey, what are you currently mulling?
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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes
And then to see that TNT stat come out, this is only the third duo to ever have five 20 point games from both of them for the first five games of a conference finals. I know it's a deep step, but a lot of qualifiers.
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Born in Oklahoma? Didn't know that. Who? Will he be at Oklahoma City? Yeah. Will he be at the finals?
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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes
It is that time of year.
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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes
All right, Trey. Oh, excuse me. JD, what are you currently mulling?
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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes
Yeah, I thought when there was some chatter and then we confirmed that we're doing a show on Sunday and you said, well, what's better to do in the studio? Because we contemplated doing it at our own house. You said studio. I thought, well, no, you're not feeling it. I didn't think you were feeling it. I didn't think you were in a studio mode.
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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes
Shave heads.
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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes
Next question. The Los Angeles Clippers are apparently very interested in shaking up their roster, making it look new. Lou Williams said they were going to try and get LaMelo Ball from Charlotte. MassLive's Brian Robb said they were interested in Boston's Drew Holiday. What are you interested in?
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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes
Yeah. Well, five games, two guys scored 20 points each game. And, and, Conference Finals, I mean and the first five games.
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Yeah, nonetheless impressive Impressive impressive Shaq and Kobe and then going way back to Elgin Baylor and Jerry West So that's pretty cool. And then on the Pacers side, they didn't look like themselves at all in this game I thought Halliburton I know he had the quiet stat only seven shots but I just thought him not getting into the paint setting guys up was the bigger deal and
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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes
I was not pulling a Terry Crews. I was not flexing my pecs. I brought it up, though. Danielle didn't enjoy her creatine experience. So I'm getting hand-me-downs.
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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes
Hell yeah. I wonder if we're... Yeah, I wonder how Jacky'd get from creatine, because I'm not... I'm taking creatine, but I ain't lifting that much. I'm really... I'm not.
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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes
Yeah, right, right, right.
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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes
Wow, you really didn't like this question. You were the one who voiced their displeasure in this question. You wanted a more specified, you wanted a narrow type of question.
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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes
him not getting two feet in the paint because the Pacers are named the Pacers for that, to start getting that thing going. And he just wasn't. I thought Mikkel Bridges had his best defensive game on him throughout this season. Yeah, by far. Yeah, off the ball, it was just impossible. And so it was impossible for him to get his flow going because Mikkel Bridges was great.
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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes
Okay, well, it is good. Well, you did say yesterday that you like pickle balls, the actual balls that bounce less than the ones that bounce more.
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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes
Great stuff. Last question. This week, Magic Johnson formally apologized to the OKC Thunder. A classic Magic tweet. Quote, I want to apologize to the Oklahoma City Thunder for underestimating them and not thinking they're ready to compete for a championship. End quote. What's something you underestimated recently, Skeets?
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People think Colby is going to win.
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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes
Trey, what's something you underestimated?
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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes
So some fun stuff, the Pacers fighting back to getting it down to 12 and Landry Shabbat. A lot of fun on the Knicks side to hear their MSG chanting Landry Shabbat's name. But overall, just the Knicks. A Knicks throttle, really.
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Oh, Raymond Felton?
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He got into the ring at an AEW?
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The main set. The main set.
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I thought he was another kid.
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He's just a friend?
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Baby, you. All right. JD, what's something you underestimated recently?
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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes
Oh, absolutely. Yeah, I think the good outweighs the bad.
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For sure, they do. Sure. I think... Trying to get the game can also be shown in the way he was penetrating, and that wasn't happening. You're right. He needed to get in the lane more. He needed to be better off the ball. When Mikkel Bridges was on him, he wasn't managing to get enough space to get into that paint, to start things up and get guys going. That being said, nobody had anything going.
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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes
Matherin has had two straight 20-point games. He's looked decent. I thought when he came out in the second quarter, he was the guy they put on Brunson. It was a decent matchup. He was staying in front of him. That's not his forte, but he was doing a decent job. So to see him, yeah, get to the free throw line a lot, hit six shots from the floor, his best two games of the playoffs, period.
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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes
I love these coaches, both Carlisle and – Tibbs going way deep. They're going way deep. Jairus Walker, his best game of the playoffs, which doesn't say a lot because they don't play him, but they're saying we need somebody to score the basketball. And he came off and bopped a couple threes. They had no one. Even Pascal just wasn't it.
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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes
Karl-Anthony Towns was beasting Pascal Siakam on the offensive glass in the post, driving at him. This was a great Karl game. We'll get to him flexing a little bit later in the show, but those flexes were all warranted.
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But warranted, you're right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's not the most defined arm type of guy, but I like watching him do it. I think he's cool.
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He's a beast in it right now. Again, those stats, 25 and 12 throughout this series, that's... He's trying, man.
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I thought we had this discussion about a guy who could drive, a seven-footer who could drive like that.
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There's not many.
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Yeah, I thought you were going easy. Edie, I thought was coming out here. Zach Edie. Charlton Townsend's new Zach Edie. Now, is that easy eating? That's all right.
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He was powering through every single guy on the other floor.
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Yeah, it was wild to see and hear the crowd chanting his name. That was the only New York Knick that they chanted, I'm pretty sure. It was Landry Shammock.
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And to see Landry go into the crowd like he's Alex Caruso of OKC just getting the crowd pumped. It was very, very cool. I am looking back because I am having some flashbacks of Landry Schammett playing defense when you say he never played defense. Really? Somewhere. Somewhere. Maybe in his Phoenix Suns days when they tried to get him to help them go back to the finals. Eh, maybe not.
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The Drop | Pacers Do It Again, Hali's Clutch Run & The Finals Demand More Pageantry
They just banged it home. The numbers are dumb. I'm looking at my sheet here. The Thunder took 16 more shots.
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Just came through when it mattered because they hit six threes in the fourth quarter and the Thunder hit zero. And so they just couldn't get to the end. And maybe Shea is gassed a little bit because – He did have to score a lot. They did say to the Thunder, all right, Shea, go off, and we'll take care of the other guys.
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But it felt like with Chet and the way he started and Jalen Williams like two minutes into his first NBA Finals game, bringing the ball up and stepping into a three-point shot and hitting it, you think, okay, if Shea is good and Chet is good with the way he started along with that Jalen three, you think, oh... Man, they're good.
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No, and that's a fair question with 324 left. Dagnon, he goes back to those Thunder last year before Isaiah Hartenstein when Chet Holmgren was hurt. They were playing a 6-6 guy at center, essentially. They were tiny for the last 324.
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Again, Lou Dort comes with a huge block, but Pascal Siakam, the monster of anybody on the floor, he's the biggest guy, comes through with the big offensive rebound and the big block of Shea with a minute 7 seconds left. So I wonder... I wonder if that happens again.
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Oh, yeah. I was surprised, too. I was surprised how the Thunder reacted positively. I mean, they were balling.
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Yeah. You know, Cason Wallace has a big minus, and he got the shot hit over him, although I do think there was a miscommunication there. Yeah, I am surprised for sure. Well, you don't play one of your bigs. Your winning got Hartenschein to pair with Holmgren before the season, so we can't get out rebounded.
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And it was a problem right at the end. I don't think Cason Wallace was the problem at all, but... Yeah, I mean, this Pacers team, I guess, would have beaten any team. I don't know. Hartenstein came out and played awesome in his minutes.
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Yeah, he was so good.
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It isn't. Why? Right to start the game. It isn't surprising that Cason Wallace played 33 minutes and Hartenstein played 17 minutes, but you'd flip that and Hartenstein would start and play 17 minutes. Yes, it was surprising for sure.
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yeah so this was a hilarious 20 25 minute podcast the guys did uh after the game last night it was great it was great as we just watched it again i still laugh every time i see kenny see trey and it looks like trey is getting back to work to talk about basketball but kenny comes in surprising that kenny comes in that's right man for the dap remember when kenny smith hated us
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It didn't seem like there was any truth to it. The Thunder were playing great.
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Yeah, the Thunder were responding well. Although I think Richard Jefferson's argument here would make a lot more sense in game two.
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That's the weird part. Yeah, I don't know if they go back to the Hartenstein because he was so good. As you said, the points at setting picks. He's such a good screen flipper. First he's an Isaiah Hartenstein, then he's Isaiah Hartenstein. He just flips. So I associate that with his name because I think he says Isaiah Hartenstein.
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And we've had this debate. Depends the day. Trey should ask him because Hartenstein came up to Trey, if you didn't hear our last show, and said, well, I used to watch you guys when I was young. And he put his hand to the floor like he's like.
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Yeah, exactly. Now I'm a Hartenstein. But he was awesome. He was so good. Yeah. And there's lots of stats that don't show up in the box score, but Andrew Nembhard airballed a three because Hartenstein was all up in his face, getting out there to three-pointers. Now...
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I think part of that is because he was that sort of in a way it was good because he had all that energy not having to start the game. And I think he why he was able to contest shots like that, why he was able to blow by Thomas Bryant was because he came off the bench and was that spark. So I guess they stick with Case and Wallace.
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Because if there's any team to go small against, it is this Pacers team that isn't huge.
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So it wouldn't be surprising if they go either way. I guess it is the mental win for the Pacers if they do flip it again, I suppose.
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And they reacted extremely well to losing that game one against the Denver Nuggets and bombed them by 43 in game two. But they didn't have to change their lineup at all, right? They just rolled that same lineup again. So you could see them rolling again with that same lineup.
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I'm still waiting for my JBL speaker, by the way.
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It sure feels that way.
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Yeah, and it happened during the regular season too. The stat going around that he was 12 of 14 on shots to tie or go ahead the final two minutes. How is that possible? I know, I know. It doesn't make sense.
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I want a little bit of an AI re-edit of having Cason Wallace All up in his face rather than take a step back to give him a little space before that shot. I would like to see. Obviously, it's all fake, so we won't be able to relive the actual moment that the ball is released from Tyrese Halliburton's hands. But Cason Wallace unfortunately gave him that tiny bit of space.
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Whether or not it was a defensive... Flub with him and Caruso. He probably thought Caruso, the bigger guy, would be there to contest the shot. I wish we were in the locker room to find out what that mistake was because I don't know if he makes the shot.
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I'm tipping my cap, but if I'm playing defense and I'm able to guard him from the moment he has the ball all the way to the three-point line, if I'm able to stick with him and then I just kind of take a little step back and give him space, he would never give him space. Casey Wallace would never give him space.
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He is unbelievable.
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Yeah, and the benefit is Halliburton being the sort of pure point guard type of player where he doesn't have to shoot every possession. He doesn't need 25 to 30 shots per game. The guy had a 14-point game and he had a game winner, and he's the hero because these are the Pacers, man. He doesn't shoot all the time. So it is fun.
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It is fun, and that's the reason why I feel like he had every little ounce of energy Shea didn't on the other side. I mean, Shea had to be sort of a hero the entire game and he had monstrous help at handling the ball.
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Well, maybe they had a make-up call because I think what I was referring to actually was when it was like 23 seconds left when the ball went out of bounds.
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The Drop | Pacers Do It Again, Hali's Clutch Run & The Finals Demand More Pageantry
Yeah, and the ball went off of...
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pascal siakam yeah his back was on the ground yeah touched it and case and wallace kind of pushed him yeah but they didn't call case and wallace for the free or for the foul so maybe that's a makeup call possibly but i liked how they didn't call that it's just like guys are gonna hit each other and it definitely was off pascal siakam although i love pascal siakam's face oh that was good that was great great slow-mo shot so i like how they didn't make that call and okay so you had another shot
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And another opportunity. Like I just said, Shea gave it to Jalen the first time. That eventually went out of bounds. Then Shea had another opportunity and missed. The guy was miraculous, but we all focus on the stuff that was late. I think throughout the game, all I was taking notes was Caruso's help block was freaking phenomenal.
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I mean, there's smart plays by like Case and Wallace grabbing Halliburton's arm as he streaks down the lane to try and get a pass. But because Case and Wallace yanked him, Halliburton didn't get it. It's overshadowed all the great defensive plays that the Thunder made, especially Caruso.
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He did.
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This is a team, man. And when you're going through all of Hal Burton's game winners and how he's able to do it, I go back to just who this guy is. And he was a number 12 pick and he wasn't the guy to take over. He wasn't going to be a superstar that needed to shoot all the time. The way that Rick Carlisle says, five guys come on in in game one of the NBA finals. And it works.
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It is unbelievable that each series now, all four series, Halliburton has hit a shot in the last 1.3 seconds left in either the fourth quarter overtime to either tie it or win it. I'm glad he didn't do the choke thing like he happens to do. This is game one of the NBA Finals. Let's wait before the choke. But I do want to just watch it over and over and over because Cason Wallace –
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I mean, the guys that he plays. Same for the other side. On Dagnall's side. I mean, they go deep as well. AJ Mitchell.
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The Drop | Pacers Do It Again, Hali's Clutch Run & The Finals Demand More Pageantry
Yeah, he didn't play all that well. So they yanked him, and he didn't come back, right? No.
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From both teams combined?
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I thought we'd see more Ken Rich Williams. Why wasn't Mudflap out there?
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Yeah, I can't wait. I mean, that's going to take a while, so I think we should just go to that.
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There'll be some basketball talking even in these random notes. It's going to happen, baby.
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That's a good point.
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It's a fair question. I don't know why. I don't know why they just don't put Larry O'Brien back at center court. It doesn't have to be a monster. Just put it somewhere. Well, I would put it as an extension. If you want OKC, in this instance, being the logo and being exactly like it was, all you kind of have to do is put Larry under it a little bit, like at least something there.
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It doesn't have to be huge.
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Picked him up, full court, and he tracked him the entire way. And I like watching it from this opposite end of camera, this phantom view, because Cason Waltz is on him. But I think he sees Alex Caruso coming, so he kind of thinks he's handing him off to Alex Caruso. So he gives Halliburton an extra step there, extra bit of space as...
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Yeah, just on center court in that line in between the logo and the sideline, like under it.
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Some gold accents.
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You're right. It is odd that it's hiding on the stanchion. It's kind of not there.
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You can't see it.
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Oh, no.
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I saw it in the athletic slack as it was happening. And people were pointing it out. I saw our man Zach Harper pointing it out that it's on the stanchion. And I was watching. I said, I didn't even notice that it was there. Totally. I guess the other. So there are two things. Yeah. Make it a little bit more glamorous. Make it a show. And it would be nice to have the intros. There's no doubt.
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Yeah, because they're talking about Doris not being there next year. It must be ESPN.
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Potentially not being there.
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Yeah, yeah. That must be for commercials in that we're up.
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And that's why watching the NBA app in-game arena is awesome because you get to watch it.
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And some arenas are so good. I mean, whoever's controlling the audio, they just know how to pump it, pump good music, and it's just fun. Yeah. You feel it. You feel it way more like you're sort of at a playoff game.
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Yeah. Yeah. And you can't really hear the fans the same way as if you were in the building. You know, it's not the same, although they have great fans. And that was the only why I'm bringing that up, because that was the only thing that makes you feel like, OK, they're standing up.
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I try and make the sound as good as I can in my house. I put whatever little surround speakers I got. I'm there with my hands connecting this orange and red wire. But I want to hear it. I want to hear everything. And I want to turn it up. But a lot of the time, it's not conveyed.
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It doesn't translate because sometimes the audio levels, you can't hear the... But I just want to... Yeah, I would love to hear the intro... Sounds.
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haliburton season he's like okay i'm rising and i'm hitting this shot so i think there's a miscommunication there from this perspective because case and wallace again he was tracking him the entire way he was in haliburton's shorts until that spot where caruso looks like it's your job now but caruso goes to box out and there's that extra little bit of space for haliburton to rise and hit the shot what a freaking shot
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Yeah, visually, the visual aid would be nice.
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Yeah, I was definitely thinking that. As you said it, as you were talking about WrestleMania, yeah, the fact that they make one sort of tournament thing, yeah, it is weird. The entire court is different. Why they don't do a little bit, a little bit different.
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Yeah, we got the Larry O'Brien here in the studio. It was great.
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Yeah, the actual trophy. There's a new version of it. Obviously, it's not just this shiny ball. It's got the grooves on it. It's so much more fun. CJ told us totally right. They got to do it. Congrats to baby number two. Yeah. What else is there to say? It's unfortunate that visually it's not there.
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I will say one basketball thing also that I was upset by. Caruso hacked Pascal Siakam. Do you remember early on? And Caruso, calling for the video. Let's see it. And the broadcaster saying, why is he calling for the video? It was a clear foul. But he did hit the ball first. I'm just wondering. Am I seeing the same thing? Am I going nuts?
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They didn't mention for one second at all that Caruso did touch basketball, and then he hit Siakam's forearms, which is totally true. But RJ knows. Doris knows. Say something about hitting the ball. That's all I wanted. That was a quick one there.
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That's when I jump over to my speakers and I say, oh, my speakers are effed up. The test is doing the wires.
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Come on.
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It is crazy. It's like, is he doing it on purpose? It feels like he's doing it on purpose at times because he's done it so many times, but he can't be.
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Let me spit.
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Yeah, we've been debating. Is he putting dip in there? Is it a Kodiak? What's going on there? But we did have one of our fans chime in.
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This is a thing over the years. But the fan actually did the research. What? Yes. Okay. This is our new wedgie, is it? Literally. This is no joke. I have some info on the Rick Carlisle spitting situation for you. It's actually kind of uncanny that you all have started talking about this topic because my wife, a Pacers fan, and I have been on this beat for about a year.
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Last spring for her birthday, we sat immediately behind the Pacers bench for a road game. Awesome experience, best seats we've ever had to an NBA game. The sounds and insights of sitting down low are completely different. However, we both came away with one impression that we couldn't wait to talk about upon getting in the car. Rick is pretty mucusy, huh?
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The man is spitting, snorting, picking, and wiping all game long.
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They changed his spit cup out at halftime. Other guys on the bench like Miles are big into the candy and gums, but not Rick. He's all natural American phlegm. So yeah, spitting, snorting, picking, and wiping.
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getting in on instagram ah rick spit first quarter 620 duly noted sir i saw thank you we just showed that to you on youtube but we won't show you is a man i guess he works for the oklahoma city thunder hasn't having his credential on his chest and you're not supposed to have your credential just showing anywhere no no trey was good last night and ash his name was randy hall i could see it clearly randy
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Listen, Randy, congrats. I wanted to see who it was. And you could clearly see his name, the photo, the whole thing. Anyway, that's all. We won't show it to you here. But if you want to go back to the broadcast, you can check it out. But either way, you're supposed to kind of put it in your pocket. But what is a person to do?
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Copy it, yeah.
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well yeah your photo's on it listen when you're 16 years old alright McLovin when you're 16 years old I use my friend Vladimir's fake ID to get into bars or whatever so it's a similar sort of thing you get to see where Randy Hall is able to go it says all these letters you know CFFGR whatever he can get into the back for press and all that kind of stuff so yeah we always hear it at Summer League we always hear it throughout the finals our man Warren will say hey put that thing away for whatever reason
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it is unbelievable uh how they got there in the end because as you said it's it's 15 points with nine minutes left andrew nemhart was a hero in this game because even if you look at the stat line a hero has four of 11 14 points but he was when it came down to it 15 point 15 points down nine and a half minutes left in that fourth quarter he started it up he went at alex caruso caruso basically like hugs him but somehow nemhart is able to finish through that was awesome
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Maybe you need to have them out more because I've been watching again. I've been watching after the John Halliburton can't come courtside, had the flashback of Masai Ujiri getting pushed when he went to go celebrate the championship in 2019 by the officer. He pushed him. And Masai didn't have the badge or the credential out. He had it kind of tucked away.
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So he had to pull it out and show it to him. So I don't know. Maybe if the cop sees it, he doesn't push him. Whatever. Just it's fine. It's totally fine. I don't see a problem with it either.
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What I do see a problem with is they continuously play David Guetta's Bulletproof in OKC. I do like watching the in-game arena experience on my TV, but I'm tired of hearing, Bulletproof, nothing to lose, fire away, fire away. They play it a lot, do they? It's like they play it every game. And I thought, they play it in the fourth quarter. This is our anthem. We're going to win this thing.
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Yeah, no, it works.
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And get that bucket. And then he had big assists after big assists to go on a 12-2 run to bring the Pacers back in this game. Four threes by their bigs. Two from Miles Turner, two from Obi Toppin. And Nembhard had three big assists to get them closer to the end there, even though one of those Miles Turner threes was a bank job. That was nuts. A bank job from the side.
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No, well, I will just say Lou Dort running through screens, I find amazing because he doesn't even know it's coming sometimes. And he just was able to penetrate it. He's such a trucker, transformer, whatever you want to call him. He's just so strong. Again, he doesn't see it coming, but he's able to go through it.
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pretend like he was shot by a bullet and just fall over that's the weirdest thing with him yeah when he doesn't when he doesn't know what's coming he can't flop right right but he's so strong and so able to go through it so somebody should put those together I think it's just fun to watch him again like I don't know what's coming. I'm just running to the side. And he's so, so much like a trucker.
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Yeah. I am surprised, apparently, they do turn up the volume in OKC.
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Audio-wise, they just literally, like a little bit of fan, you know, just like they turn up the volume. They just literally play.
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Yeah. How do you know this? Well, it came through in the slack. I do want to make sure it wasn't music that they turned up, but it came through on our athletic slack that volume turned up, which it doesn't seem like you would need it at all in this arena. Well, I'm going to double check as you bring in our next topic.
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Absolutely not, and OKC's fans will be bumping whether or not there's artificial sound or not.
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I'm not sure. I don't want to spread that misinformation, but I do love OKC's fans, and I liked how Adam Silver actually, who did his pregame media session, talked about all these ratings, the whole, hey, are enough people watching, and how people say it to him on the street if they see Adam Silver. What's going on with the ratings?
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He says the goal is that market size essentially becomes irrelevant, is the whole goal. And he looks at the way technological changes have changed, the meaning of the differential from one city to another doesn't really matter. He says, yeah, there's 700,000 people in OKC, 900,000 people in Indianapolis.
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So not small markets, but even if there were another million people or so in a city, when you're talking to a global market and a sport like the NBA, when you're being followed by billions of people around the world, those incremental changes become pretty meaningless.
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Maybe we'll get him to do it. The game is super popular, and now that we're watching, it's streamed. He just feels like the game is getting bigger, like it's getting bigger in Europe, like when you're playing with Jan Mahimi. And it really doesn't matter. But it does matter if you do know that it's the NBA Finals.
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He's sort of free throw line extended and shoots that ball. How does that bank in? And then Nembhard with two minutes left hits that three over Shea.
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A visual and some sort of pump up.
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Lean into it. I immediately think.
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Yeah, it does, I guess.
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The soccer do it would be the question because that's what Adam Silver loves. But I guess you know when the World Cup is happening.
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And soccer and leagues. I guess maybe it doesn't matter. It doesn't really matter. We're here. The NBA should be. We should know. We should know Larry's being played for. It's a great trophy. It was great to touch here in the factory. Yeah, put it out there. Just put it out there.
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Well, I'm going quite literal because the Tasmanian devil is what I'm often called. Like Silver's asked about ratings, I'm asked about the Tasmanian devil or people, you know, Collate my name with the Tasmanian Devil. Why can't you just put Tasmanian Devil on the side of shoes? I think it would make me play harder.
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He was in his bag. Yeah, just through his legs, through his legs, through his legs, and hits that shot over Shea to get them closer. And then... We got Dagnott deciding to go extremely small the last three minutes and 24 seconds. They don't have a center out there. They pull out Chet Holmgren, and we can debate whether or not it was a smart move.
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If I happen to look down and I see, whoa, that thing, that cartoon that's able to spin, I would play harder. So get the Tasmanian Devil on some shoes. Do they exist? Maybe.
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Yeah, but they can look cooler.
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Yeah, and they can look cooler. Okay. Like the hardened J-dubs.
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When you go to a buffet.
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oh yeah I see all the trays and I think I'm gonna eat from all of them and what I ended up doing every single time is I probably take from like half of them I sit down and then I get up and I think okay time to get the other ones but I'm too I'm almost too full to actually do it oh I thought you were gonna say you enjoyed the ones you had so much that you're like well I might as well just get more of that oh yeah because I know I've done that too
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Right, yeah. I go both ways. Sometimes I take too much of everything. Sometimes I just stop after that first one. Sometimes I will just get a dessert, call it a day. Lots of options. So you think there's just too many things?
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Lou Dort had a monstrous block with a minute plus left, so he was playing center. I had my girls watching that Lou Dort block over and over and over again because Lou Dort just goes straight up. This monstrous man straight up and is able to just hang out there, hang in the air. hang in the air, hang in the air, and then blocked the shot. That was beautiful stuff.
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There's way too many. Yeah. Yeah, it's hard. It's hard to take it all in.
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It all changes. It all depends on the place. But even still... Not every tray. You're not going to love every tray, right?
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Which you can do. You just pick the foods you want and sit down.
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That's how you do it.
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Oh, I take it back. I feel like Atlanta is similar to that. We do the fusions. You know, they try and spread themselves a little too thin, right? Right.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Not Moe Verney stories, Les Verney stories.
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You're a real Matt Austin, just trimming the fat. But I'm with you. Yeah, when you said 50 minutes to an hour, tense. Too long. Just shorten it up.
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Well, this is how the video is produced. I go around asking people, what's 43 plus 24? And then they do the math and they say 67. And everybody is doing this thing where it looks like they're juggling.
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I still don't totally understand, but it has something to do with the answer. The answer is the 67 has to do with... LaMelo's 43 card. The number of the card is 43. Of what card? Panini card.
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I think.
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This could be a Google Gemini lying to me here. But I think that's what it is. Or maybe not. I don't know. Because people answer 67, and then the questioner, the interviewer... Blows up, he's like, and does the juggling motion. I still don't know exactly what it means, but it could mean LaMelo something something, because he's also 6'7". I don't know. Who knows, man.
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How did these guys come back? I will say, though, Shade did have a bad minute 10 play. At the end of the game. His last minute 10 was bad. They're up three. He goes in. Pascal Siakam acting as center blocks the shot. And then they go down the other way. Again, Pacers are down three points. Andrew Nembhard tries to hit another shot. He misses. Shea is guarding Pascal Siakam.
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That's a tough one, but people love it. Derek Rose got asked. He did it.
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No, he didn't.
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And then the guy, the interviewer will say, yeah, the 67. And I still don't know the answer.
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Yes, because 67 as a reference is something.
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Yeah, I don't know. Google doesn't do it. The proper answer, really. The Google Gemini. Not an ad because I'm bad mouthing it. Because it doesn't work, yeah. But it says something about LaMelo. Who knows?
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I wish. But that is a good one.
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That's frowned upon. That's frowned upon.
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Are you taking it home? Are you packing it for yourself?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Me too. I'm a same plate guy, but they don't want you using their utensils, putting it on your plate. I get it.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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And Pascal Siakam says, all right, I'm going in for the offensive rebound. I'm the biggest guy on the floor, essentially. And Shea just looks kind of gassed as Pascal Siakam comes from the corner. And Shea just kind of throws his hands at him, doesn't box him out. And Pascal gets in there for the offensive rebound. So now it's a one point game.
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Absolutely.
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And remember, the playoffs have just been spectacular. Who cares about small markets? Who cares that OKC is a small market and Indiana, Indianapolis is a small market?
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That's how you get it.
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Yeah, no, it's hard to say Shea had a bad last minute in 10 because he had an awesome game and he just scored before that. But then here he goes the other way, gets blocked by Pascal. And then... we're up one here. What am I going to do? He kind of just has a one pass possession where he kind of just dribbles, dribbles, dribbles. Nembhard cuts him off. So seven seconds left.
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He says, all right, Jalen Williams, you do it. Jalen Williams misses. Luckily, OKC is able to get the ball back because of that challenge that Rick Carlisle had. Hey, I think Pascal Siakam was pushed by Cason Wallace. They give the thunder of the ball and then Shea is stopped by Andrew Nembhard. Cue Halliburton to come the other way after that miss. That guy is ridiculous. So it was...
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Yeah, you're right. How many times do you think, okay, so he's taking this thing. Okay, so he's taking this thing. Jalen Williams is yelling. He's screaming with 930 left as they go to the timeout. And then Andrew Nembhard, again, started it. He started it. But all his guys, Toppin, Miles Turner, also from the mid-range, those guys just come through in the fourth quarter.
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You're right, Matherin played a part, there's no doubt. It is amazing that every single guy on this Pacers team comes through. He even did a decent job on Shea when he was guarding him, like he did on Jalen Brunson in the last series. Brett Matherin, of all people, slowing people down. But it was miraculous in that fourth quarter, those stats, where...
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The Thunder 0 for from three while the Pacers hit six threes.
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Yeah, I didn't know that Pascal Siakam, I called the over 19.5 points in this game.
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Yeah, that Pascal was at 19. He didn't get that half point. I didn't know that the Thunder would be starting Case and Wallace, and Pascal Siakam took advantage of that in a couple cross matchups to start this game because Pacers couldn't score, and I didn't know Halliburton would be thrown off as Pacers. You heard him on the audio track.
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He said, I mean, I was I was just kind of had the jitters and he wasn't right. And to see at the end of the game and to hear Andrew Nebhard was at his locker and did like three minutes of press. And he was gone. He didn't have to do anything. Everybody's talking about Halliburton. Everybody talks about Halliburton and forgets about Pascal Siakam and Andrew Nembhard.
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Pascal Siakam with that monstrous block and the putback with that minute left. Huge. Nembhard, fourth quarter, huge. Ben Matherin coming through, huge. Miles Turner coming through with two big threes and a mid-range shot, huge. Obi Toppin, huge. Who the heck saw that coming?
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Sloppy topping.
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How do they do it? How do these Pacers do it? It is wild to think about. How they only had a lead with only .3 seconds left. I can't help but start to think of the 2011 Mavs and their run to the NBA championship and how they were not really favored in that first series. Just like the Pacers here in Milwaukee, Dallas wasn't really... Sorry, the... Pacers versus Milwaukee.
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Some people took the Pacers. Some people took Dallas over Portland in 2011. But then they were just underdog, underdog, underdog. Like the Pacers are to the Cavs, Knicks, and Thunder here. And here they are. Yeah.
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the Thunder have been here before yeah two rounds ago yeah exactly in game one against the Nuggets it's not yeah it's not far-fetched to see them come back but yeah they gave up that fourth quarter lead in the Aaron Gordon game winner so so I still think they're the favorite and but I will be proven wrong I'm sure I mean this is gonna be a long series and that's the beauty of it it feels like
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That's the good one.
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I gotta say it once to get it out of the way.
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Good comparison right there. I mean, Halliburton had a 12-point game until that game-winning shot. It wasn't a spectacular Halliburton game. They allowed... Andrew Nembhard, again, kind of saved the day, but it was wild. 9.42 left, down 15 to see the Pacers go on a 32-16 run to end the game. And they scored 35 in that fourth quarter. They didn't even come close to 32 in the first three quarters.
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Halliburton.
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Yeah.
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And what was it?
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How very dare you.
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Not that often.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Sure, yeah.
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What a beautiful, beautiful show you created. It's a It's a beautiful show.
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Thank you, guys.
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That's great. I think, oh.
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Would he do that?
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Yeah, my brain's not there.
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They want to give her back.
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Like a real sister. That's great. That's amazing.
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Don't do that. Hello.
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Sterling thinks Jack would have hit his children had Rebecca not... My mama used the belt.
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Anyway, it tickled, it tickled me.
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I got him.
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He's me right now.
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Yeah. That's amazing. I watched it back.
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I love you too, and let me tell you this, that's not the only reason why, but when he hit me to come pull up, it was an immediate yeah. Because I'll never forget that moment with you. And I got to give a shout out to Cindy Shupak, also a writer, amazing writer of Sex and the City. She too came up to me and said the same thing. She's like, you're going to win an Emmy for that episode.
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And you said it to me. Donald Glover also. He's like, I was going up against two of his episodes for Atlanta. Yeah. And obsessed with the episodes in a category, you know, particularly him, you know, always chasing Donald. And he told me, he was like, you're going to get the writing joint. You're going to get the writing joint.
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He was a writing one. I was like, you better get, you're going to get something. You're going to get something as well. Because you're amazing. You know, but I just, obviously, I'll never forget that night. You know, you have these moments like that in your career.
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And it's just, you know, for it to be a historic one, for me to be, you know, the first African-American woman to be nominated in that category. And obviously to take home a trophy with Aziz, my brother.
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Forever. Y'all know what it's like to have the TV family. It's cliche, but these people really do become your family.
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And it's forever. Yeah. And people see us. They look at us. And so thank you for all that you said about the episode. It's an episode that people, Thanksgiving's coming up. I love that we're a part of people's holiday, that people put the episode on. And we have an episode of The Chi this season, season seven. Well, no, we did it last episode. We did an episode, we called it Thanksgiving.
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I'm sorry, season six. That was season six. We got season seven coming next year. But season six in The Chi, there's an episode, a Thanksgiving episode. And I asked, can we call it Thanksgiving? They allowed us to do that. So Thanksgiving is just, you know, it's about family. But family don't always mean blood, you know, as you all know very well.
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Family is about those that show up for you and those that accept you. And so I'm really grateful that Thanksgiving, that episode could just mean something to people because... I never would have thought it would become what it did. But I was just grateful to be working with Melina Mitsoukas, who directed that episode and did a beautiful job.
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You know, Kim Whitley, who pulled up and played, you know, my aunt. And obviously Angela Bassett, who is someone I just, you know, I'm forever grateful for before I got to work with her. But now, and she is like a mother. We feel like mother-daughter because after that, come on, it's forever bonded.
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My homie was writing on the show. She thought of me for it. Because she was writing on it. I did not know that. Yeah, and I definitely knew about the show. Because I'm such a TV... head. I did the documentary about Mary Tyler Moore because I studied Dick Van Dyke Show. When I went to college, I studied writing, producing, and television. So we had to watch Dick Van Dyke Show.
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We had to watch All in the Family and really study these shows, but also coming up on ER and the practice. And I came up during a really cool time, obviously getting a chance to watch West Wing in real time and all that kind of stuff and Mad Men in real time. And Sopranos, I'm very blessed.
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And so when This Is Us came about, I remember just being in the industry and sort of hearing about it and hearing about the concept and hearing about the cast and just sort of thinking, if that works... what a miracle and what a joy it would be in terms of what we need to see on television.
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And it could have been hokey, but because of you all, and I think the chemistry and the lack of fear to go into really complicated places, people really, especially your father's story, I mean, people I think really,
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kind of were like moved in a way that they were with Grey's Anatomy, like network television that was giving us something that wasn't, you know, you just fold your laundry and let it play in the background. It's always exciting when something comes along that just grabs everybody. And so when I got the opportunity, I was like, yeah,
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Yeah, I want to be a part of that because shows like Community and The Searchers would kind of come along. This Is Us was one of those shows where in the industry people were kind of whispering and sniffing around going, what's that about to be? And so, yeah, I was just honored to come on and do something in an episode. People will hit me. People are like, oh, I'm watching This Is Us.
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I was watching it. The fact that people still hit me about it, it's like, yeah, people are just re-watching the show, which is such a rarity. I always say a true success of art is something that people want to go back and revisit. So when you watch them shows, they're like, oh, I was watching the reruns of that.
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Oh, then that's a special show for you to go back and watch something you've already seen. We watch Law & Order SVU all the time. It's like, yeah, it don't matter. I've seen this episode 18 times, but I'm going to sit and watch it to the end. That's a special type of energy, you know? And so y'all have that.
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And so just truly congratulations for being a part of something that's timeless, but was also timely. Thank you. Yeah, man. So truly, I was honored to be a part of it.
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Columbia College in Chicago.
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You know what? It was never part of the plan. It was part of God's plan. It wasn't part of mine. I always wanted to be behind the scenes. I wanted to write television. Obviously, A Different World had a huge impact on me, Home and Grab Productions. I remember watching that show and just knowing I really wanted to be a television writer.
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That's what a different world and Cosby show. That's what those shows really meant for me. I was like, I want to write TV. Never really had the performance bug, but I've always been a ham. I mean, my mom would call me a ham when I was a young kid. But I think that's because I watched so much television.
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You do the thing that you do is like you sort of watching TV and you repeat it back and you can, you kind of say lines, you know, obviously with some shows like Martin, you know, I always tell Martin Lawrence, I was like, man, I get my personality from you, you know, like get the step in and like, you know, like, you know, like get Like, was I?
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You know, like, watching him on Def Comedy Jam, like, just how he would, like, vibe and stuff like that. Definitely picked up on things like that. And so when I went into... Okay, so the acting thing, first of all, I got to give credit to Allison Jones, a phenomenal cast and director. Okay. who saw something I had written and asked to meet with me. And so I went in and sat with her.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
And she's iconic. She cast Veep. She cast Freaks and Geeks, Bridesmaids. She's responsible for so many careers. And so I went to her, I was like, why am I meeting with a casting director? I'm like, I'm not casting anything. But she was like, she just wanted to meet you. And so I went in there and saw these like, you know, posters of like these iconic shows that she cast.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
And I sat down with her and we just had a conversation. We just talked. And I was talking about many different TV shows that I liked. And maybe I mentioned Maud or something and Rhoda and all this stuff. And she was sort of, I think, a little like, OK. And then she was like, have you ever thought about acting? And I was like, no, I have not.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
And she was like, well, would you mind if I brought you in for some stuff? And I was like, sure. And she did. She brought me in for some things. I booked one couple lines on one of my favorite shows of all time called The Comeback.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Lisa Kudrow, Michael Patrick King. I watched that first season and became obsessed. I was like, what is this? Who is this? Who is Valerie Cherish? What is this? And so I was one of those people that had the DVD and listened to the commentary. And then because people were so obsessed, 10 years later, they did a season two.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
And so when I got a call, they were like, you want to go in for the comeback? I said, do I want to go in for the comeback? Yes, of course.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
So I go in, and it's just taped. And then she's like, okay, Michael Patrick King's directing this episode. He'll look at it. I was like, oh, Michael Patrick King wrote Sex and the City and is an icon? She was like, yeah, he's directing, and he'll look at the tape and see. He picked me. I come in. I play a journalist that's giving value shares a hard time.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
And I even asked him if I could kind of adjust the line. He was like, yeah, yeah, that sounds better. I said, okay. Now he and I, our parking spots are next to each other.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
But yeah, that was the beginning. And then I got a call about this Untitled Aziz Ansari project, and they really want to go in. And I went and sat down with Aziz and Alan Yang and just talked to him. Because Aziz was like, I don't want to just audition people. He's like, I want to meet people first. Yeah. And if they cool, you know. That's very British of him, yeah. Yeah, exactly.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
So I went to his house, met with him. And it felt like a writer meeting because I was used to TV writer meetings. Sure. And I was just myself. I had just fallen in love. I was like telling that story and just talking shit. And then I got like, okay, he wants you to audition. And I was like, okay. So I go in and I read with him.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
And it was just... It was just so natural. It was as if we'd been talking forever. And they were laughing and reacting. And I was like, is that how it's supposed to go? And then I was just like, you know, I left. And I got called in to test. And then he was like, do you want to come and do this show in New York and play my friend? The show didn't even have a title.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
And I was just like, yeah, man, because I was obsessed with Parks and Rec.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
I loved him.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
And so, and it was really like, and Michael Schur was a producer on it, but it was really, it was almost like Michael Schur said, okay, I'm gonna let these kids go do their own thing. And yeah, I just went to New York and started doing that. And then when it came out and people started watching it, that was really the beginning. And so that's really how the acting career sort of began.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Oh my gosh. Okay. Watch this.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
So the first movie, look. Sterling. Okay. My first movie ever. Uh-huh. is because of Steven Spielberg. Steven Spielberg cast me in Ready Player One. That's her first fucking movie. Oh, I'm sorry.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
That's because you sold a distinguished gentleman. You have to be an Oscar nominee. Come on.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
You know, you can't be doing AT&T commercials. We out here is different.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
And that's it.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
It's like, because we got to work together, every time me and Chrissy see each other, you would feel like we went to camp together. It's just like... I love that. It was just such a fun day. It was a very emotional scene, obviously, as people know.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
And I just love seeing her out in the world and just giving her hugs and being like, hey, what's up? Good to see you.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
I have got two pups. I got two dogs. You do? Okay. I do. Caleb and Gigi. I felt it in the scene. I was like, she loves dogs.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
They're not here with me right now. They're in Los Angeles. I'm in London. We miss them. But we know people that we get the pictures sent and video sent to us when we're away. That's the kind of party it is because you miss the pups when you're gone. But you got to travel. You don't want to schlep them everywhere all the time. And I had a dog, I think, at the time where I was about to get a dog.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
So it was just exciting to be on set with like,
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Okay. My people would kill me if I didn't plug my own podcast.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Call it a podcast. Come on. I don't even think of it as a podcast, but it is technically a podcast. It's called Legacy Talk with Lena Waithe.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
And we've dropped two episodes so far. But basically the concept is really conversations, is dialogue. This has been a lovely dialogue and conversation, which I love. But I, you know, people were trying to get me to do it. And I was like, well, what's the intention? You know, what are we doing? And they were like, well, you can talk to who you want to talk to.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
And I was like, okay, why don't I talk to Black women who have legacies that have impacted mine?
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
And they were like, okay, cool. And so we got six episodes so far. We want to continue to do them, so stay tuned. But the first episode was with Sheryl Lee Ralph. Yes. Who was an icon, amazing, the original Dream Girl, our original Dina. And we sat down and had a lovely conversation. That episode is out right now. It's such a wonderful listen. I had such a wonderful time talking to her.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
And the second episode that came out was with Gina Prince-Bythewood. And her name may not be super familiar to some, but she's behind some of your famous... favorite movies, like Love and Basketball. She did Woman King. She did The Old Guard that was on Netflix with Charlize Theron. She's a phenomenal writer-director. Secret Life of Bees, which was the first thing I worked on.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
But I used to be her assistant back in the day. I was her assistant for like two years.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Boom. Yo, that's all I could ever want is to be a part of her legacy. So that episode is out. And then coming up next is Mara Brock-Akeel.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Who created Girlfriends, The Game, and Being Mary Jane. I was an assistant on Girlfriends in its last season. Were you really? And Mara's the reason she got me that job working for Gina. She's like, you need an assistant? You should get Lena. And that's how that journey began. And then after Mara, we got Jada Pinkett-Smith. Cool. Okay. Comes to sit down. Pretty cool.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
You turned the red table around. Okay. Look, look. You know, her legacy had a huge impact on me. Growing up watching Menace to Society. Obviously, she was on A Different World. A Lowdown Dirty Shame. You know, seeing her in Matrix. She did a voice in Madagascar as a hippo. That's right. She's had such a wonderful career. And so we talk about that. And then Jennifer Lewis. Oh, Lord.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Help help raise me. Oh, Lord. Like my mother.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Before she was, you know, you know, and she we talk about her glorious career as well, which sounds like what's love got to do with it? And she was also on a different world as Dean Dorothy Dandridge Davenport. You're on my list.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
you know um and uh and obviously returning a really wonderful uh voice performance and uh princess and the frog yeah um and so and then and last but not least uh debbie allen wow who is my north star and she's a lot of people oh everybody everybody she gets mentioned in all these interviews so she's last she's the finale um as she should be uh and so basically i was also a big fan of a show called inside the actor studio oh yeah you see
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
to come on Bravo. And I learned a lot watching that show because even though I, it's funny because I did not have aspirations of being an actor, but because I had aspirations of being a writer, I was really curious to hear from actors what they were looking for in scripts.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
And so that way, oftentimes, you know, James Lipton would often ask some of the greats, like, what are you looking for when you're trying to pick a project? So my, you know, I'm like 16, 17 watching it. Thinking like, okay, I want to write something that a great actor would want to do or want to play. That's a big reason why I always tell people like Daniel Kaluuya cast himself in Queen of Slim.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
He read the script and emailed me and said, I am slim. I am slim.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
And I was like, okay. And it really, like the fact that Daniel was like, he read it before Melina Masoukas. He was like, I want to be in this movie. And I was like, all right, okay. I did not see you as slim, but now I can't stop thinking about you as slim. I remember I called Melina. I was like, yo, Daniel Kaluuya hit me and said he's slim.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
And she was like, I don't, I don't, I don't think, I don't know. I was like, just meet with him. And she did. And it's on the trifecta. So that came from me watching Inside the Actor's Studio and just wanting to, and also Reggie Rock Bythewood said, make sure you write characters that actors can't wait to play. even if it's like a small two-liner or something like that.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Make an actor like, I don't want to do that two lines. So anyway, I say this to say, I was watching this at the Action Studio, and when James Lipton never picked a successor, people would always say, what happens when you die? He's like, so does the show. And I would always feel depressed about that because I was like, we need somebody to sit and talk to
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
just performers and actors that have done really great things and get a sense of it. And so I don't talk to these people about their personal lives, any of that. I'm asking Shirley Roth, what was, what was the audition process like for dream girls?
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
You know, asking Jada Pinkett Smith, how much of peaches was on the page and how much of it was you? Yeah. You know, and so, and asking Jennifer Lewis, how do you play the mother of Tina Turner in a way that you do? Because it's such a complicated woman.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Yeah, they were very close in age. But, you know, and I'm just asking Jennifer, like, Like, how do you, how do you, how do you even step into that role? Like, how do you do that? You're, you know, but also then like in Poetic Justice, she plays Tupac's mom and she's only in it for like a scene, but she's so phenomenal. She's so amazing. And I got to ask, like, what was it like working with Tupac?
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Like, what was that? And so, and a lot of times, like even Jada, like it's all career stuff. It's all like, talking about Jason's lyric, talking about the inkwell, you know? And so it was just, that's what these conversations are. And I think people may not know what to expect coming into them. Because we're not just talking about, oh, talking about where did you get inspired?
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
When did you want to be an actor? No, we really are talking about process. And we're talking about where they were in their lives when they were doing certain projects and how that impacted their performances. So I hope people check out Legacy Talk with Lena Waithe. I think it's really fantastic. And also, I've written my first play. And I'm just going to, I think, step into the theater space.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
What's the play, homie? What's the play? Okay. I'm not going to tell you the title of it, but it's a three-hander. Okay. And it's about, you know, just love. And it's a bit of a love triangle, but it's something that I'm really trying to play with form, and I'm going to be in it. So it's my first time, except when I'm talking about my actions. I mean, like, I am so scared and freaked out, but...
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Theater actors are a different kind of situation. And so I've been in film, I've been in TV.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
And I love both, but I've never been on a stage and had to say everything. And so I'm just, but that's the pool I'm jumping into next is theater.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
You're a force.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Truly, in every way. I grew up on your music. Don't get me going, okay? I remember when music videos was a thing and we was watching your music videos.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
And I appreciate you for being an ally. I saw you out there campaigning and trying to help get this thing going. You're very much appreciated on the front lines.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
We got to make sure we showing love for folks that are showing up. So it's much appreciated because we can't get ahead without linking arms with each other. You've seen the march on Washington. Go back and look at that footage. It's all of us. And that's what this is us to me represented. That's what it continues to represent. is that we really are family.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
We're in this together. Truly.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
I am play. What's the play called? I'll let you know. I'll let you know what it's called. We'll get it together. But yeah, man, we did a reading in Baltimore. We're going to do a reading in January. So stay tuned.
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There's the normal guy. Anyway. But let's go back to the show.
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But it won't happen. Yeah. If you just saw that, like at a hotel bar. Right. Movies like Airplane, Naked Gun. Why aren't people making those anymore?
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Oh, my God. Oh, by the way, I finally saw that. And it is excellent. You guys were not wrong.
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What color is Periwinkle? All right. That was the Lonely Island and Seth Meyerspotten.
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