Spencer Matthews

But I was wondering if you might be able to break down

Well, firstly, what is a hangover?

What's happening to your body?

Like when you wake up feeling hungover, what has happened to your body and what is your body processing?

That's really interesting to know what that is.

So GABA, that's what that is.

So is there an argument for saying that just one drink is good then?

Because I can directly relate to what you're saying in the sense that if something goes wrong with your business or you are experiencing heightened levels of stress, having a beer...

If you take the social element out of it, is there a scientific reason why when you have that first beer or that first glass of wine, you almost instinctively want another one?

Is it Anna Lemke's seesaw effect in the brain?

Firstly, what is your view on that?

So basically, you get these large dopamine releases from drinking lots of alcohol.

And then you essentially... The seesaw dips back down to neutral, but then dips into pain.

So you must pay for the dopamine that you have borrowed, essentially, from drinking alcohol.

The view of some...

is that, um, quick, easy dopamine release must be paid for, you know?

Um, so whether that be smoking, gambling, porn, alcohol, sex, you know, you're giving yourself this clean dopamine hits from toxicity essentially.

And, um,

that dopamine level drops it doesn't just stay level at neutral it seesaws and you know you pay for it with pain anxiety you know in some cases depression yeah bad sleep um

Is it that balancing of the seesaw, if that's the case, that makes people keep jumping in?