Stan Van Gundy

And to be honest, we still don't talk about any of those games.

No, we'll talk about it generally in terms of...

The respect we have for people on both sides, like, you know, like when I saw Sprewell the other day and I know how much he meant to Jeff and the whole thing.

And then Jeff would obviously, when Tim Hardaway was working for me, he'd see Tim all the time.

I mean, there's great respect.

And so we would talk about that, but never getting back into the specifics of games and the whole thing.

Thank you.

And thank you for your friendship.

And I said to you before, you know, walking in, I haven't been in these studios and walking in and seeing this and my admiration for you and what you've done for so many other people where you could have relaxed, taken your money, either been in retirement or just worked for somebody else and made a good living.

And I know you and I know part of why you did this.

It wasn't a ego trip for you to have this company.

You did this.

to help other people, the people who work for you in here, the people you've put on the air and put in podcasts.

And I know you take great pride in that.

And as a friend of yours, it's something that I really appreciate about you.

You've developed those relationships because you care about the people around you, me included.

I mean, you put me on the air the first year I was out of coaching and

I think that got other people interested in me.

Like you've done that for people consistently when you could have made it a lot easier on yourself and just been about you.

And so I'll always appreciate that.