Stan

And now we're at 125 or so, and we have to have John back.

for this subject.

So John is the former, like I mentioned, former professor and dean of the School of Public Health, received his master's and doctoral degree at the University of Minnesota in mass communications.

He's a board member and has been on boards and is still on boards going forward.

And it's because a lot of people recognize his insights and his abilities to really put a lot of things in perspective.

And that's included things like Children's Heart Link, Health East, associations of schools and programs and public health, et cetera.

He's done a lot of research and research.

The list would be a mile long, listing all the different awards that he's got.

He's really, really a dear colleague of mine, for sure.

I can speak for myself.

We've been linked for a long, long time.

And I really greatly appreciate you being on the show today, John.

So welcome, welcome.

I don't know.

But they don't want to get rid of you because of your insights.

So, all right, let me kick this off a little bit.

And all I'm going to say to everybody on the show here is just chime in with your ideas.

You know, we're living, you know, at one point we used to say we were living in interesting times.

I've kind of changed that to I think we're living in troubling times right now.

And it's creating a lot of anxiety, angst for a lot of people in general, public, professionals in this case in health fields, et cetera, because I believe the underlying aspect of it all, at least for the professionals, is trying to do good and trying to help