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people with their health and medical issues.

So there are a lot of different things that are kind of hitting us.

But first and foremost, I guess I'd like to get a perspective from, you know, with what we're going through right now and where it might lead.

So, John, maybe take that and run with that.

Yeah, right, yeah.

I mean, you can't make this up.

I mean, it's just like, it's going to have effects for sure.

So, John, let me ask you this.

You know, for those of us who have been involved in public health, you know, we say that, we have said,

that many of the things in public health are invisible.

Okay, but yet it's helping to maintain the safety and health of communities and populations.

Do you think that's part of the problem?

that it's kind of reached ahead where, okay, if it's so invisible, who cares about it?

Do you think that that's a sentiment that could be hurting us?

So, John, you know, it's...

A key word is, you know, we have to work with communities.

Okay.

All right.

And I'm behind that 100%.

But the key is that the work has to be driven by somebody or some entity or has to be coordinated somehow or other.