Stani Kulechov

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Talking Tokens: Crypto, Onchain Finance, Investing · Why Aave V4 Is Built Like a Central Bank for DeFi | Stani Kulechov · 30 Jun 2026 podcast

Um so I I think that is uh something that is uh a big difference.

I do think that there is gonna

Be a trend where a lot of the risk actually moves away even further from the protocols and on-chain into off-chain into the actual uh issued assets, and the risk management will happen more on the uh asset issuer level, uh, for example, when it comes to tokenized assets.

So I think that is where sort of like the um traditional risk management tools apply, but we need to figure out how do we communicate that.

transparently back into the on chain and are able to um adjust parameters or safety functions uh uh those assets in mind.

Yeah, I I think Avis serves um a couple of purposes, right?

So um it is a uh treasury management tool as well, um in the sense that you want your treasury to actually uh uh yield um basically uh interest uh on an ongoing basis.

And I think where on chain lending comes into place is that uh you have the ability to uh obviously go above the the the traditional

Risk curve with collaterals, for example, that might be highly liquid and can be liquidated fully to the last sort of like uh uh uh debt position.

But at the same time it opens up a completely new world of building uh financial primitives or lending markets where you can go higher on the risk curve, but in a transparency and auditability that ha that is unprecedented.

And I think that is

sort of like a where it becomes really interesting for uh treasury managers.

Uh I think also on on the retail or or uh or sort of uh commercial side, um Ave has been uh recently integrated into WAP uh uh treasury uh and WAP is is basically a uh a a platform for creators to actually sell digital goods uh online and they have a huge

Huge traction at the moment and one of the uh products that they launched was WAP Treasury, where actually the the creators can uh use their uh earnings and um put those earnings into um a treasury product that is powered by Ave uh Veda, which is a vault manager and and and plasma a network where where Aave this Aave market is deployed.

So why this is interesting is that this was the first biggest uh fintech integration uh of of of DeFi uh at that scale, and it showcases um how easy it is uh to actually plug in to DeFi uh down the line.

And the benefits here is that the more actually fintechs and asset managers and uh uh treasuries are using and plugging into DeFi, the network

effects scale.

That means that there is more liquidity to withdraw, uh there's cheaper cost of capital for borrowers to utilize, um, and you get compounding effects that you you you don't really find in in traditional finance.

Yeah, I mean that's the vision, right?

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