Stas Kulish

And then over that period of time, we sort of reach out based on your activity.

If you're a champion, if you're really digging it, we're going to be inspiring you to do more.

Right.

Well, you're sending Karma.

I'm sending Karma to Nathan every other day, and Karma can see that.

We don't really track people's activity on Slack.

We don't really track their activity on Microsoft Teams.

We're not that kind of company.

We see what they do with us, how much they enjoy using Karma, and then based on that, we encourage them to use it more.

Um, for the first 30 days, it's mainly an in-chat experience.

Well, as usual, we also have the marketing chain going on in the email, but that's, um, I don't know.

It's helpful.

I don't think many people converted just because of that.

Uh, well it's five or six contractors coming and going.

We're trying to stay lean and mean and keep this to the minimum because we're bootstrapping, obviously.

And as I said, it's still not clear where this would go because that's why the investment trouble is not happening and we're not really taking it.

$25,000 approximately.

Um, all of the above and also just to simplify the answer.

Yeah.

And we, we hoping to get big, uh, somewhere in the future someday, um, we trying to like