Stefan Shemilt

We sort of began with management speak, Rob.

So I'm going to be hypocritical now and I'm going to end with management speak.

Has one of the biggest problems, do you think, been over the last six months that this England set-up is affected by groupthink?

And that there hasn't been any room for anybody to push against it and have their own way of approaching the game.

Because at best, at best sometimes, the England set-up has been described as a clique and at worst as a cult.

Can people think for themselves within the England set-up or do they have to follow the leader?

What are you going to do, ask him in Spanish or something?

This is the final one and then we'll let Rob go.

Rob, thank you for giving us your time.

Rob Hayden, Managing Director for England Men's Cricket.

I'm going to start with you, Alistair, because out of the four of us, I would suggest that you were the one with the best facial expressions on that interview.

I forget.

If people watch you on the iPlayer.

And you also look like you're in a very cold studio because you've got your coat on for the whole interview.

But it's kind of... Or you've got a quick getaway go.

You kind of... It wasn't a confused look, I would say.

It was just...

A bit like, as I put to him, this is all stuff you should have known beforehand.

I know.

It's why I asked those two questions, Michael, of one, that last one on the group thing, but also, you know, being genuine, you know, he's played in international cricket.