Steph Claire Smith

And I think for me, I didn't look at her in any –

Like, I didn't look at her and Amy and think, like, because Amy was kind of more on the academic side or whatever, that Amy was better than Sian or that that business, you know, could exist without Sian or anything like that.

So I think that meeting her and realising that I do not think any less of her, even with the things that she feels were maybe missing or that she was insecure about that I felt, I think that helped me be like, oh...

okay, like maybe I should be able to look at myself that way.

Similarly to when I met Victoria's Secret angels and they were pointing at themselves in the mirror, pulling themselves apart.

And at that point in my life.

This was back when you were in New York.

You were in like a gym.

In a gym.

And all of these girls walked in for this class, three of them being Victoria's Secret models that at the time I thought were the fucking pinnacle of the world.

And I was honestly stunned, but they walked in and started criticising themselves in the mirror.

And at that point, in the depths of my body insecurities and when I really thought that looking a certain way was the be all and end all, I was like, hang on, these girls are supposed to be like these perfect angels that we put on these pedestals that like... Well, Victoria's Secret set body standards for like quite a long time.

Yeah, totally.

Unsustainable, I should say.

And I think hearing them talk to themselves like that, obviously it was horrible, but it just made, that was the point where I was like, I don't think anyone

is like 100% happy with themselves or like doesn't have insecurities or like, you know, we all have these things that we see and that we sit on and think about ourselves that no one – like there's a lot of other people that wouldn't agree with you or would say otherwise or see all these beautiful traits in you.

And so I think for anyone struggling, if it's similar to me in that, you know, maybe you put yourself down because there's certain strengths that you don't have or whatever –

Now, of course, like you can dive into things and challenge yourself and definitely grow and learn and get better in areas.

However, don't like disregard the strengths that you do have.

Yeah.