Steph McGovern

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4,785 appearances 56 recordings 6 series first heard Nov 2025 last heard 2d ago

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The Rest Is Money · 299. Trump’s new tariffs - can anyone win a trade war? · 26 Jul 2026 podcast

I know way more people who work in engineering who are happier than people who work in banking. matched

But there is that sense, you're right, this isn't a question, this is more of a rant. matched

But that point you made about when I saw that factory that I worked in close and all those jobs go to China and the only bit that we really kept in the North East was the design side of things because we're better at design and that level. matched

It was really sad and it is the reason why people felt... matched

because nothing replaced it. matched

All those skills were lost and lots of people felt like they weren't valued. matched

And we do have a problem with that in this country with valuing those kind of technical jobs in the same way we do people in the services sector. matched

It's not binary, is it? matched

There are some really high-end, brilliant jobs that could be here in manufacturing that we have lost, that we could re-engineer, I guess, using AI and everything else. matched

And that could be just as... matched

as meaningful and rewarding and high paid as, you know, what we've lost. matched

And I think, I don't know, this is just, I just don't think it's binary when we look at this and go, right, yeah, let's not go back to manufacturing things because everyone hated it. matched

Yes. matched

And also I always like to challenge what is skill, what's high skill and what's low skill. matched

Because quite frankly, some of the skills you think that are low, like being able to communicate, I actually think are much more highly skilled than people give them credit for. matched

So anyway, I'm not going to get into the rant about the definition of low skill and high skill, but that's another beef that I have. matched

It is, it is. matched

Again, it does my head in when people call jobs low skilled. matched

Yes, okay. matched

We agree, we agree. matched

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