Stephanie Cartin

And that's how we initially got our start.

Okay, this sounds so courageous to me because all I, I was a lot, I was 43 when I actually left corporate.

So I was, the problem, and this is why for everyone listening, if you have an inkling like Stephanie and you're like, oh, I would love to go on my own, do it younger, I think.

Because it's harder.

The more money you make, the more accolades you get, the more you find yourself locked into thinking this is all you can ever do and only seeing that opportunity in front of you.

So if you have that calling on your heart, make that leap.

I had it when I was younger.

I ignored it.

And I kept just, you know, running up that ladder.

And gosh, I look back now and I'm like, I'm so proud of you guys for making a leap.

When you made that leap, how did you...

Start figuring out because I remember as an entrepreneur, you know, my early 40s trying to figure out, OK, where are my revenue streams coming from?

What systems do I put in place?

What's working?

What's not working?

What about pricing?

What's needed in the market?

Like, how did you kind of figure that out or did you just trial and error it?

So a little bit of both.

Okay, so I'm going to take you back to those early days again.