Stephen Dubner

And it didn't matter.

Although the one emotion I hadn't considered for myself was feeling betrayed by him, even though that probably wouldn't have been inappropriate.

Anyway.

I do.

And I sit and I tell him the whole story.

I tell him the guy who gave me all this information because he knows him.

He worked with him.

Right.

And he just said, none of that makes any sense.

I don't know what you're talking about.

I was convinced that we were right.

So I ended up writing in the New York Times a column that explained this mistake we'd made.

But that's what journalists do.

That's what writers do.

If you get had or if you make a mistake, you have to admit it.

So anyway, that was a long way of saying that I don't think there's anything in Freakonomics that we would do really differently for the people we were then.

But you would agree, right?

I agree.

And I think a good example of that is probably the most famous claim from the book about the relationship between legalized abortion and crime.

There are kind of two tracks of that.