Stephen Kotkin

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Because their view of the world is feudalism, capitalism, socialism, communism.
So first they have to destroy capitalism to get to socialism, and then socialism can eventually get you to communism.
So the Communist Party must first build socialism.
How do you build socialism?
It doesn't exist.
So how do we know what it looks like?
How do you get there?
They don't know.
The only thing they know is it's not capitalism.
So let's destroy capitalism.
That will be the step to get us to socialism.
So capitalism has markets.
We'll have planning.
Capitalism has private property.
We'll have state property or collective property.
Capitalism has bourgeois parliaments where they vote and they claim it's democracy, but it's only for the property holding bourgeoisie.
So we will have a dictatorship of the proletariat, right?
Everything capitalism has wage slavery, right?
Exactly.
But everything is eradicate capitalism to get you to socialism.
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