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Stephen Kotkin

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

The only reason China has Hong Kong is because after World War II, when Truman announced that Chiang Kai-shek and the nationalists were going to accept the Japanese surrender in Hong Kong, the British sent their boats in and took Hong Kong back themselves.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

so that when Mao defeated Chiang Kai-shek, he didn't have Hong Kong.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

The British had Hong Kong and they created this international financial system that Mao's successors would be able to use.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

Had the British not done this, there would be no Hong Kong and there would be no Chinese miracle.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

in the Deng Xiaoping and after period.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

The other thing they have is they have overseas Chinese who know the culture, speak the language, and are going to do the FDI.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

Again, routed through Hong Kong.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

So you have Taiwan.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

So ironically, the failure to win the civil war 100%,

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

We think of the Korean Peninsula as divided.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

We think of this partition of the Korean Peninsula.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

But China is also partitioned.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

There's also Taiwan, still partitioned to this day.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

And Taiwan is the FDI that's going to come in through Hong Kong, routed through into the special economic zones on a risk-reward capitalist market basis, not a communist basis.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

And furthermore, they have the Japanese war guilt.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

because the Japanese committed those atrocities in China.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

So the Japanese are going to make up for what they did.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

by helping rebuild China.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

Again, the FDI and the tech transfer, like it's coming from Taiwan.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin Became the Most Powerful Dictator in History

So Taiwan and Japan, this partitioned China and this guilty, the war guilt, through the British Hong Kong is going to go into the special economic zones, manufacture things like the Japanese, and then export them to the American domestic consumers.