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Yeah, right.

So there's two things here.

One is the problem of divine hiddenness.

But the second thing, which might be more interesting to talk about, is the moral argument.

I would just say that personally, of all the atheistic arguments, the argument from divine hiddenness is the least persuasive to me because I see so much evidence.

And I see evidence in the scientific realm, the evidence that we have for the beginning of the universe and therefore a creation event.

for the fine-tuning of the universe and the need for a transcendent designer of the universe, and in the evidence of the digital information stored in the large biomolecules inside living cells, which is absolutely necessary to life.

What we have in life is, as Bill Gates has said, the DNA is like a software program, but much more complex than any we've ever created.

If we encountered that in any other realm of experience, we would immediately infer to a master programmer.

I think we should infer to a master programmer.

So the evidence in the physical world, I think, is very dramatically supportive of the reality of an intelligent agent that has the attributes of God, is transcendent, intelligent, and active in the creation.