Stephen Richer

And so a lot of these narratives have flipped.

It's interesting to somebody like me who's been watching this for a little while.

It's not always rational, but I'm trying to meet it where it is.

That's right.

And again, my complaint with the SAVE Act is often about the predicate, the false predicate, which is that large numbers of non-citizens are voting in our elections.

And that, again, that has been demonstrated time and time again to be false.

Now, we can have, absolutely, we can have a public policy debate about what's the appropriate amount of documentation for proof of citizenship.

public policy debate.

But too often in the Trump world, in election administration, we're debating facts that shouldn't have to be debated.

So if you vote at a voting location, you'll either fill in your ballot with a hand mark, you'll hand mark it with with pen and you'll fill in the ovals or you'll have a touch screen and then it'll print a piece of paper and then you'll feed it into a tabulator at the voting location.

Correct.

Again, so 98% of Americans have a paper ballot of some form, whether that's filling it in yourself by hand or whether that's touching ovals on a screen and then printing it off and still having a paper ballot.

And then you're going to go as the voter and you're going to make sure that it has all of your selections as you intended.

So say for this race, you voted for this person.

For this race, you voted for this person.

For this race, you voted for that person.

And then you're going to feed it into the tabulator.

You're going to feed it into a little mini tabulator that is at a voting location.

at the end of the night stop who supervises this county or city workers who have been trained to do this who are bipartisan teams oftentimes depending on the jurisdiction they've been offered up by the county republican party or the county democratic party but these are almost in most circumstances a bipartisan team of paid temporary county or city employees

Correct.