Stephen Wolfram

But there's several steps to explain what that's about.

What do you make sense of that?

Well, I think actually the ideas we've recently had might actually give away into this.

And that's, I don't know yet.

I mean, it's, I think that's, it's a mess.

I mean, the fact is there is a

One of the things that's interesting and when people look at these models that I started talking about 30 years ago now, they say, oh no, that can't possibly be right.

What about quantum mechanics?

You say, okay, tell me what is the essence of quantum mechanics?

What do you want me to be able to reproduce to know that I've got quantum mechanics, so to speak?

Well, and that question comes up very operationally, actually, because we've been doing a bunch of stuff with quantum computing.

And there are all these companies that say, we have a quantum computer.

We say, let's connect to your API and let's actually run it.

And they're like, well, maybe you shouldn't do that yet.

We're not quite ready yet.

And one of the questions that I've been curious about is, if I have five minutes with a quantum computer, how can I tell if it's really a quantum computer or whether it's a simulator at the other end?

And it turns out it's really hard.

Turns out there isn't, it's like a lot of these questions about sort of what is intelligence, what's life.

That's a boring test for a quantum computer.

That's right, that's right.