Stephen Wolfram

It's like, are you really a quantum computer?

Or just a simulation, yeah.

Yes, exactly.

Is it just a simulation or is it really a quantum computer?

Same issue all over again.

But that, so, you know, this whole issue about the sort of mathematical structure of quantum mechanics

and the completely separate thing that is our experience in which we think definite things happen, whereas quantum mechanics doesn't say definite things ever happen.

Quantum mechanics is all about the amplitudes for different things to happen, but yet our thread of consciousness operates as if definite things are happening.

Right, okay, so the question is, what is, in a sense, the most structureless structure you can imagine?

And in fact, what I've recently realized in the last year or so, I have a new, most structureless structure.

Right, right.

But what's your new idea?

Well, it has to do with hypergraphs.

Essentially, what...

What is interesting about the model I have now is it's a little bit like what happened with computation.

Everything that I think of as, oh, well, maybe the model is this, I discover it's equivalent.

And that's quite encouraging because it's like I could say, well, I'm going to look at trivalent graphs with three edges for each node and so on.

Or I could look at this special kind of graph.

Or I could look at this kind of algebraic structure and

And it turns out that the things I'm now looking at, everything that I've imagined that is a plausible type of structureless structure is equivalent to this.