Steve Baxter

And this is what the Australian Defence Force does to companies.

They'll just feed them enough, feed them enough so they just don't quite die.

And these companies just limp along and don't grow.

I believe it's a deliberate policy to keep these companies in shape just in case we do need them in a future conflict.

We can then start spending, which is how bad their thinking is because you just can't spill up from starving to nothing.

It doesn't work that way.

This is just... It's cultural.

I don't know either.

It's absolutely cultural.

In the US, you are...

They prefer buying from, and you notice I said large US companies don't buy from, I said large Australian companies don't like buying from small Australian companies.

Large US companies will buy from small companies, not US companies.

They don't care where it comes from around the world, right?

They have a predisposition, they're predisposed to buy from US companies mostly because they're closer and the reps are there.

But they'll buy from any small company.

They prefer it.

So it's cultural at its heart.

It's taking care of its own.

you know what i mean like that's pretty much what they're doing they're taking care of their own we here we just yeah but large u.s companies will buy from any small company from any nationality that's my point there okay if you know what i mean so like australian companies can sell under the u.s to large companies just as easily u.s company can u.s small company so um there's a there's a real difference in in in that i don't know you know i think hey talking about the problem

is a good start.