Steve Hartert

Where I came into the picture,

It was about two years ago, Eideken Tank, our CEO, approached me and kind of laid out the JotForm story, told me where the company had been, where he would like to take the company, and basically made such a compelling story to me.

and, you know, told me such a, where they wanted to, you know, really the future where they wanted to go, it was very difficult to say no.

And I thought, I talked it over with my family and we said, you know, it's one of these opportunities that come along probably once in a lifetime.

And if you're going to jump and grab that ring, now's the time to do it.

And here we are.

Yes, yes.

He did give me some equity.

He was very generous on the equity.

So, you know, obviously that's very helpful when you want to sit there and keep building a company.

But, you know, it was also he gave me the challenge.

He gives me the freedom.

And as he does everybody here, I think really to kind of just do it the way you think you need to do it.

You know, we're not my no one in this company is micromanaged.

We try to be a very.

How many are you?

We are about 75 people.

support people, the marketing team, obviously, and such like that.

No, we've got people actually based all over the world.

We've got our headquarters is based here in San Francisco, but we also have a programming group that's based out of Ankara, Turkey.