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Steve Hartert

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
368 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
PLG Playbook: How Jotform hit 10m Users, Targeting 5% Free to Paid, Min $19/mo Price Point, Bootstrapped

Otherwise, they can say, well, you know what, I'll just go ahead and I'll start deleting out some of those older submissions from earlier.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
PLG Playbook: How Jotform hit 10m Users, Targeting 5% Free to Paid, Min $19/mo Price Point, Bootstrapped

of the month or I'll export out a bunch of things or something.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
PLG Playbook: How Jotform hit 10m Users, Targeting 5% Free to Paid, Min $19/mo Price Point, Bootstrapped

So it depends on how the user wants to do it.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
PLG Playbook: How Jotform hit 10m Users, Targeting 5% Free to Paid, Min $19/mo Price Point, Bootstrapped

But we find that most people, once they get to that point, they realize this has become a valuable tool for their business and the path for them to upgrade.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
PLG Playbook: How Jotform hit 10m Users, Targeting 5% Free to Paid, Min $19/mo Price Point, Bootstrapped

They look at it and think this is a key component so they don't have a problem wanting to do an upgrade at that

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
PLG Playbook: How Jotform hit 10m Users, Targeting 5% Free to Paid, Min $19/mo Price Point, Bootstrapped

We really just, we, I mean, what we do is we look at where that number is.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
PLG Playbook: How Jotform hit 10m Users, Targeting 5% Free to Paid, Min $19/mo Price Point, Bootstrapped

We look at our numbers on a daily basis, sometimes, you know, several times a day, but we look at them on a daily basis and then we aggregate them across different geographies versus the timeframe.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
PLG Playbook: How Jotform hit 10m Users, Targeting 5% Free to Paid, Min $19/mo Price Point, Bootstrapped

So we might look at, you know, again, what's going on on Australia on a monthly basis versus what's going on in Canada on a monthly basis, those kinds of things.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
PLG Playbook: How Jotform hit 10m Users, Targeting 5% Free to Paid, Min $19/mo Price Point, Bootstrapped

But we find it's fairly, it's fairly consistent for us.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
PLG Playbook: How Jotform hit 10m Users, Targeting 5% Free to Paid, Min $19/mo Price Point, Bootstrapped

You know, sometimes it depends on what the industry is somebody's using.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
PLG Playbook: How Jotform hit 10m Users, Targeting 5% Free to Paid, Min $19/mo Price Point, Bootstrapped

So,

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
PLG Playbook: How Jotform hit 10m Users, Targeting 5% Free to Paid, Min $19/mo Price Point, Bootstrapped

For example, during the last couple of years with COVID, healthcare use exploded, right?

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
PLG Playbook: How Jotform hit 10m Users, Targeting 5% Free to Paid, Min $19/mo Price Point, Bootstrapped

I mean, they needed it and desperately needed it because they suddenly had to go to no contact types of environments and things like that.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
PLG Playbook: How Jotform hit 10m Users, Targeting 5% Free to Paid, Min $19/mo Price Point, Bootstrapped

But what we did for them is we said, okay, look, if you're a verified healthcare provider, whether you're a doctor or a health clinic or a hospital, whatever, we gave it to you for free.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
PLG Playbook: How Jotform hit 10m Users, Targeting 5% Free to Paid, Min $19/mo Price Point, Bootstrapped

We gave you one of our silver plans for free for

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
PLG Playbook: How Jotform hit 10m Users, Targeting 5% Free to Paid, Min $19/mo Price Point, Bootstrapped

for a year.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
PLG Playbook: How Jotform hit 10m Users, Targeting 5% Free to Paid, Min $19/mo Price Point, Bootstrapped

So you could just get in there and do what you had to do to help people.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
PLG Playbook: How Jotform hit 10m Users, Targeting 5% Free to Paid, Min $19/mo Price Point, Bootstrapped

So those kinds of things we look at, but then we also look at that and go, well, how are people consuming the product?

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
PLG Playbook: How Jotform hit 10m Users, Targeting 5% Free to Paid, Min $19/mo Price Point, Bootstrapped

And that's really what it comes back down to.

SaaS Interviews with CEOs, Startups, Founders
PLG Playbook: How Jotform hit 10m Users, Targeting 5% Free to Paid, Min $19/mo Price Point, Bootstrapped

And so we always look at it, but we found that the thresholds where people need to move have remained consistent because we find that those seem to be pretty good barometers of how we want to move things along.