Steve Herz

And I realized I wasn't going to help build a business for him. And around the same time, this girl I dated in law school who lived in New York, it was a long distance thing. She had a friend, we've broken up at this point, but she had a friend who worked for this agency called Athletes and Artists.

And I realized I wasn't going to help build a business for him. And around the same time, this girl I dated in law school who lived in New York, it was a long distance thing. She had a friend, we've broken up at this point, but she had a friend who worked for this agency called Athletes and Artists.

And I realized I wasn't going to help build a business for him. And around the same time, this girl I dated in law school who lived in New York, it was a long distance thing. She had a friend, we've broken up at this point, but she had a friend who worked for this agency called Athletes and Artists.

And I stayed in touch with this woman and she called me one day and said, hey, you know, our company needs a director of marketing. This guy, Maury Gosfran is leaving and he's going to law school at the University of Miami. And we need to replace him. And I said, I would love that. And she said, why don't you come meet the owner of my company, Art Kaminsky. And I met him.

And I stayed in touch with this woman and she called me one day and said, hey, you know, our company needs a director of marketing. This guy, Maury Gosfran is leaving and he's going to law school at the University of Miami. And we need to replace him. And I said, I would love that. And she said, why don't you come meet the owner of my company, Art Kaminsky. And I met him.

And I stayed in touch with this woman and she called me one day and said, hey, you know, our company needs a director of marketing. This guy, Maury Gosfran is leaving and he's going to law school at the University of Miami. And we need to replace him. And I said, I would love that. And she said, why don't you come meet the owner of my company, Art Kaminsky. And I met him.

And this woman's name is Jackie Harris, still friends with her. And she got me in and they hired me. And that was in July of 92. And so that was great because now I was actually working for an established agency. And I had a job. I was in New York City. It felt like I made it.

And this woman's name is Jackie Harris, still friends with her. And she got me in and they hired me. And that was in July of 92. And so that was great because now I was actually working for an established agency. And I had a job. I was in New York City. It felt like I made it.

And this woman's name is Jackie Harris, still friends with her. And she got me in and they hired me. And that was in July of 92. And so that was great because now I was actually working for an established agency. And I had a job. I was in New York City. It felt like I made it.

By the way, this job paid at Athletes and Artists, the base salary was, I think, $35,000, which even in 1992 was not a heck of a lot of money considering my law school classmates starting were making $80,000. But I was thrilled. I had a job. And for the first month or so, I lived on my friend's couch. And I was happy as could be.

By the way, this job paid at Athletes and Artists, the base salary was, I think, $35,000, which even in 1992 was not a heck of a lot of money considering my law school classmates starting were making $80,000. But I was thrilled. I had a job. And for the first month or so, I lived on my friend's couch. And I was happy as could be.

By the way, this job paid at Athletes and Artists, the base salary was, I think, $35,000, which even in 1992 was not a heck of a lot of money considering my law school classmates starting were making $80,000. But I was thrilled. I had a job. And for the first month or so, I lived on my friend's couch. And I was happy as could be.

I think I didn't even know what the work I was doing at the time when I got into it. It was more of the idea that I had this goal of getting a job at an agency. And I think it was just doing something new. I mean, I knew nothing about, first, I knew nothing about what I was doing for Lloyd Friedland.

I think I didn't even know what the work I was doing at the time when I got into it. It was more of the idea that I had this goal of getting a job at an agency. And I think it was just doing something new. I mean, I knew nothing about, first, I knew nothing about what I was doing for Lloyd Friedland.

I think I didn't even know what the work I was doing at the time when I got into it. It was more of the idea that I had this goal of getting a job at an agency. And I think it was just doing something new. I mean, I knew nothing about, first, I knew nothing about what I was doing for Lloyd Friedland.

And then I knew nothing about being a director of marketing for a sports TV management company, which was to get these guys voiceovers and commercials and speaking engagements and all kinds of ancillary income. And I knew literally nothing about it, had no relationships in it, but I figured what the hell I'll learn. I didn't care. I was too, too ignorant to know any better.

And then I knew nothing about being a director of marketing for a sports TV management company, which was to get these guys voiceovers and commercials and speaking engagements and all kinds of ancillary income. And I knew literally nothing about it, had no relationships in it, but I figured what the hell I'll learn. I didn't care. I was too, too ignorant to know any better.

And then I knew nothing about being a director of marketing for a sports TV management company, which was to get these guys voiceovers and commercials and speaking engagements and all kinds of ancillary income. And I knew literally nothing about it, had no relationships in it, but I figured what the hell I'll learn. I didn't care. I was too, too ignorant to know any better.

Exactly. I just felt like maybe it was something that was intrinsic in me. This is my first real job in the world. I just realized that if you built relationships with people and you cultivated them, that somehow good things would happen. I think one of the hardest things I ever did in my career there was I went to the front desk of this office, athletes notice. And I went to the receptionist.

Exactly. I just felt like maybe it was something that was intrinsic in me. This is my first real job in the world. I just realized that if you built relationships with people and you cultivated them, that somehow good things would happen. I think one of the hardest things I ever did in my career there was I went to the front desk of this office, athletes notice. And I went to the receptionist.