Steve Hilton

It's a definition in the legal thing that means that if it's in that category, if it's called a serious and violent crime, it automatically...

Get the jail time.

And you've literally, if you follow what goes on in the state legislature the last two or three years, friends of mine in the state legislature, a woman called Shannon Grove, particularly has been strong on this, has been year by year trying to get child sex trafficking upgraded to a serious and violent crime.

And it was blocked by the Democrats time after time.

One year, it completely failed.

She had to come back the next year.

It's insane.

It is.

And only in the end, and again it happened, and there's about two or three of these examples, and I can't remember the exact details, but variants of unspeakable disgust, the worst crimes involving children and sex, sex with a minor, you know, selling a child for sex.

And they battled to actually...

you know, give them the appropriate sentence.

And it was only finally that Gavin Newsom, as the governor, was so embarrassed.

He's running for president.

I mean, just this year, had to step in.

They voted it down.

She was telling, Sharon was telling me stories about she would have victims, victims to the committees in the state legislature to give evidence, victims of child sex trafficking.

And they wouldn't let them speak because they didn't want to hear it.

Because they're so, and I think it really, actually, I'm really glad we got into this because to me, probably more than anything else, it just really captures the extent to which ideology has just taken over.

ideology over all else.

And it's this ideology of decarceration, criminal justice reform, prison is bad, can't send anyone to jail at all for anything.