Steve Hilton

You need to increase prison capacity.

But again, don't tell me you can't find money in the budget for that, for savings.

I mean, the amount of bloat...

It's just astronomical.

And also, by the way, you can do, I mean, this is one of the things I tried to work on back in the day when I was in the UK government is payment by results, where you actually put contracts in place.

We don't just go hand out money.

You get paid in exchange for results.

And so for the prisons, what you want, the actual goal of it, of course, there's an accountability aspect.

You've got to punish people.

hold them accountable for their crimes, but you've also got to rehabilitate them, because nearly half of the crime is reoffending.

So you want to reduce that, and that's how you reduce crime, and that reduces costs.

So you can put, there's all sorts of things you could, it's just to have common sense, practical people.

I just want to tell a story, if I might, about,

the the kind of that's been going on in california and it's to do with the fires here in l.a and it's a it's a little story but i think it tells so much about the kind of people you've had in charge it's karen bass the mayor of l.a and a few months into the

you know recovery from the wildfires this year and there's all this you know focus on permits and rebuilding and why isn't anything happening and it's all so slow and she and she I saw a post on social media and it from Karen back Mayor Karen Bass it said I have just signed an executive order streamlining permitting for rebuilding in LA great yes four months too late but whatever

I'll take it.

And then it was above a clip from the press conference, a video clip.

So I thought, okay, I'll watch what she actually said.

So what she actually said was, I remember it very precisely.

I have just signed an executive order tasking agency heads with developing paths forward to streamlining permitting.