Steve Hilton

If I knew, then they knew.

So it shows you their total hypocrisy.

They have no...

interest in anything other than their own power.

And if he's the useful guy that they can put there as their puppet, it doesn't matter about any of this stuff.

And so I think that we've really got to focus on the rottenness of this Democrat establishment, particularly in California, where they've been in power 16 years of one-party rule.

No constraint at all.

They've got so arrogant.

They're so out of touch with regular people.

Of course, their record is a disaster.

That's the basis of my campaign and setting out a positive alternative.

But the fact that they're now collapsing into chaos and sleaze and scandal, I just think it's one more reason that despite the odds and despite how people look at California, we really do have a shot at kicking them out this year.

Yes.

Let's just be really precise.

OK, I don't know.

We don't know whether she knew, but it's here's what we can say with certainty.

She had heard.

Right.

It must be the case that she had heard.

The idea that she didn't pick this up, someone like her who prides herself on this iron grip on her caucus and all the rest of it.