Steve Holloway

No, I enjoy it.

Yeah, I enjoy it.

Because you believe that when I see it, it will happen.

Does that make sense?

Yeah, it does.

The one that springs to mind is like we did this list of goals at the start of the year and we didn't actually make them public because you said let's have a chat about those before they go out.

But one of them was take my boys to the World Cup.

And that's going to happen.

First of all, it's a lot.

So we're going over there and we're going to be working the whole time.

And it's this big production and we can't say all the details right now, but it's really exciting and it's going to be perhaps overwhelming at times.

But then when I think...

When I think to 20, 30 years down the track, when I look back on life, I'll be, what did I do?

And you built this podcast and you had all these amazing guests.

But I feel like taking my boys who are seven and nine over to the World Cup and seeing me working and interacting with players and all this sort of stuff will be one of the highlights of my life.

So I sort of put that down at the start of the year without really thinking that it would work or it would happen.

Yeah.

And then all of these sort of like pieces of the puzzle fell into place and I realised it was a reality.

And then it's like, holy shit, can they fly to Vancouver by themselves from Auckland to Vancouver, a 13-hour flight?

They've never travelled internationally.