Steve Holloway

And I was in this massive meeting on Friday and there was like two huge bodies involved and I was kind of running the meeting.

I had the agenda and I was asking around, do you have questions?

Do you have questions?

And kind of running through this TV show we were creating.

And it's like, well, who, how the hell did I get here?

Like I'm the same guy who was, you know, sort of sitting quietly in a meeting at the Herald a few years ago, getting told what to do.

Well, no, I'm not.

And that's what I realised.

Like, I'm different in all parts of life.

But it's weird to think of how other people see me.

I don't really spend a lot of time thinking about that.

No.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There was always something inside of me that knew at some point I would do something more.

You know, when we had the kids, they were young.

That was the right use of my time.

It was being home, being present.

I was always there in the mornings and the afternoons and, you know, juggling three under five and all that sort of stuff.

Like that was the best use of my time.