Steve Inskeep

I'm glad you're with us because you were around for this last time. How did the first round of travel bans work out?

I'm glad you're with us because you were around for this last time. How did the first round of travel bans work out?

I'm glad you're with us because you were around for this last time. How did the first round of travel bans work out?

Yeah, you kind of mentioned it. I mean, it was very, very controversial because of the backstory of that first travel ban. You talked about the mayhem. I mean, during Trump's first campaign for the presidency, Trump called for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States. As you noted, there was all the chaos at the airports.

Yeah, you kind of mentioned it. I mean, it was very, very controversial because of the backstory of that first travel ban. You talked about the mayhem. I mean, during Trump's first campaign for the presidency, Trump called for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States. As you noted, there was all the chaos at the airports.

Yeah, you kind of mentioned it. I mean, it was very, very controversial because of the backstory of that first travel ban. You talked about the mayhem. I mean, during Trump's first campaign for the presidency, Trump called for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States. As you noted, there was all the chaos at the airports.

And also, you know, our listeners will remember all the protests as well. The ban did face legal challenges and was blocked by the court. But Trump made all sorts of revisions. And eventually, the Supreme Court did approve the third iteration of the ban. President Biden rescinded it, though, on his first day in office. Now it's back.

And also, you know, our listeners will remember all the protests as well. The ban did face legal challenges and was blocked by the court. But Trump made all sorts of revisions. And eventually, the Supreme Court did approve the third iteration of the ban. President Biden rescinded it, though, on his first day in office. Now it's back.

And also, you know, our listeners will remember all the protests as well. The ban did face legal challenges and was blocked by the court. But Trump made all sorts of revisions. And eventually, the Supreme Court did approve the third iteration of the ban. President Biden rescinded it, though, on his first day in office. Now it's back.

Oh, and a little bit more expansive, apparently, than the last time. This is not the only thing the president did yesterday. He escalated his fight with Harvard University. In what way?

Oh, and a little bit more expansive, apparently, than the last time. This is not the only thing the president did yesterday. He escalated his fight with Harvard University. In what way?

Oh, and a little bit more expansive, apparently, than the last time. This is not the only thing the president did yesterday. He escalated his fight with Harvard University. In what way?

Yeah, he signed another proclamation to suspend visas for new international students at Harvard. The White House says it's a move to, quote, safeguard national security. Now, it's unclear, though, what force this order will actually have, because last week a federal judge ordered the administration not to make any changes to Harvard's student visa program.

Yeah, he signed another proclamation to suspend visas for new international students at Harvard. The White House says it's a move to, quote, safeguard national security. Now, it's unclear, though, what force this order will actually have, because last week a federal judge ordered the administration not to make any changes to Harvard's student visa program.

Yeah, he signed another proclamation to suspend visas for new international students at Harvard. The White House says it's a move to, quote, safeguard national security. Now, it's unclear, though, what force this order will actually have, because last week a federal judge ordered the administration not to make any changes to Harvard's student visa program.

I do think it's safe, Steve, to say this proclamation will be upheld.

I do think it's safe, Steve, to say this proclamation will be upheld.

I do think it's safe, Steve, to say this proclamation will be upheld.

And, Piers Franco-Ordonez, thanks for the insights. Really appreciate it.

And, Piers Franco-Ordonez, thanks for the insights. Really appreciate it.