Steve Kwast
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first heard May 2025
last heard May 2025
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Most people may not realize that back in 1859, the only thing we really had that was vulnerable to an electromagnetic pulse was a telegraph. But we had a Carrington event, which is basically a sun flare. And so there's a plasma wave that starts coming to the earth. And depending on how the earth is rotating, this one happened to hit as the North American face was hitting the plasma field.
And it melted every telegraph plunger in America as 3,000 volts went through every telegraph line. And so in some of our museums, we have those melted telegraph plungers that reveal how catastrophic it was. And that telegraph plunger system was 100 times more resilient than some of the SCADA systems we have now in our cars and in our electrical grid.
We are so much more vulnerable than the telegraph. Because the telegraph, you know, is basically just a brass or, you know, a metal thing where you punched it down, and when it made contact, it was sending, you know, a signal through the power line, and you did Morse code, you know, dot, dot, dot, dash, dash, dash. Now our SCADA systems would not survive even the smallest electromagnetic pulse.
So one of those is gonna happen again. I mean, it's just a matter of time. The percentages are high and we haven't had one since 1859. We had a SCARE in 2013. But it ended up not being a significant event. And North America was not part of the plasma wave. But it's going to happen. And the only question is whether we can adapt quickly enough.
So I know I'm down a little rabbit hole here on the power grid. to go to the question you asked, and that is that we can make it resilient to electromagnetic pulses with some of these technologies that are affordable. And as we are demonstrating how affordable it is in San Antonio with this Electromagnetic Defense Initiative, which is now a White House Hallmark program,
Other energy companies are looking at that saying, okay, I can do this now, and I can now protect my grid, and I can market my electricity as being resilient. But there's another piece of this that's really important to note, and we don't have to go into detail on it. But there was an article just the other day on this that I can send you.
Some of our other competition in the world have developed these tactical electromagnetic pulse weapons, meaning that a guy with a backpack or a satellite can actually point something at, let's say, a fleet of F-35s on the ramp, and strike a jolt of electricity that can fuse those SCADA systems and those computers.
Our dependency on electrons and electricity is very, very vulnerable, except for our nuclear forces, because it's expensive to harden things for that kind of event. So now we have Mother Nature as a potential threat to a very... vulnerable dependency that we have grown because of efficiency.
We've grown to be very dependent on electricity and it's very vulnerable because we wanted to make it as cheap as possible. And now it could become an existential threat to our society if people use that vulnerability as a place to attack us.
That's why I started the Electromagnetic Defense Initiative because our bases were vulnerable to electricity that was not guaranteed and we couldn't rely on backup generators if we couldn't have transportation for fuel to get it into the gate.
Something like that? Yeah, so there's no question that we are investigating these things. But here's one of the things that gets in the way. We over-classify everything. I mean, in the bureaucracy of our government, a 22-year-old kid that's brand new to the military as a lieutenant can classify something top secret and then takes an act of Congress to get it back down to where it needs to be.
So we are so overclassified and compartmentalized that the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is talking about. And so oftentimes what will happen is Congress will ask this same question as we're talking to Congress about this risk to America. They'll say, well, I just talked to this four-star general and they told me that they're working on it. And they are.
But when you take a look at the money, It's like a little experiment up at the Air Force Research Lab that has like $300,000 when China is spending a billion dollars on the very same thing. So the road to operational, the road to commercial, the road to making something that is useful to our economy, It requires money and it takes leadership to innovate.
This goes back to your innovation question. Why aren't we innovating on some of these things? Well, some of them require the government to actually put its thumb on the scale and they aren't putting enough money on the scale to compete with those that see what it could do and are putting a lot of money on the scale.
It is, and so all you have to do is take a look at what President Trump is saying and what he is doing. You first of all fix it by providing an opportunity for the American people to see what's going on, this truth telling. What is really going on here? Because again, the people have been lied to about all kinds of things. They've been lied to about the history
And many of those lies perpetuate these infinite wars we're in that President Trump is trying to stop by revealing the truth. So it starts by triangulating the truth. And this is why I give you such admiration and respect for the fact that you, and the way you evolved into what you're doing right now, is actually hitting at the root.
Because we could build all the technology in the world, but if our people are still lied to about what that technology is gonna be used to do, we just perpetuate the problem. All technology can be used for good or evil, but it can only be used for good if the American people know
what's going on and they can hold their politicians accountable for the policies and the decisions that are either consistent with our values and our beliefs that I talked about before, where we do not bring harm to other people, we uplift the human condition, we usher in prosperity, peace and security, not war and violence and instability. And the technologies of our age
I think about it like a flashlight. If we do this right, even with quantum, if we can operationalize quantum, or we can operationalize truth discovery in the current model of the internet and of the techniques for communication we have, it's like shining a flashlight on all the dark corners of history and of the world right now where evil can hide. They can enslave people. They can traffic people.
They can launder money. Corruption can thrive in the dark corners. But if we believe there are more people on the planet that are good and would rather love their neighbor than kill their neighbor, We can gang up on this small number of evil people that are prioritizing their own control, their own money, and their own security by enslaving others.
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